John Bear actually recommended Kennedy-Western?
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The evil of Bear, to me, is that he now is willing to trash and insult people who did exactly what he advised. He didn't just change his mind. We in fact don't really know what he truly believed then or now. I would't believe him now if he told me it was raining.
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(02-26-2012, 02:37 PM)DR ANATIDAE Wrote: Stop dreaming Ham.
What JB did was just as bad as or possibly worse than the crimes committed by Frank Abagnale; particularly with his work with the London Institute of Applied Research and Millard Fillmore.
Please read what the UK's Institute of Directors had to say about John Bear in 1974!

Yes, selling fake degrees from one's home can be deemed inappropriate, especially if it wasn't an attempt at a silly joke or a harmless fundraising program. (Still a bad idea.)

How might it look for someone to buy a fake degree from an absolutely unrecognized business pretending to be a university, then do it again with another--this one run from someone's house?

Sellers of fake degrees are bad, and even if one's motives are innocent, it is really a bad idea. The same goes for purchasers of those fake degrees. Perhaps some do it from simple innocence combined with ignorance. But what happens after they're found out and know what they've done? Doesn't that make them villains (and co-conspirators in fraud) instead of victims if they continue to make their fraudulent claims?
(03-06-2012, 09:13 AM)jamesc1 Wrote: The evil of Bear, to me, is that he now is willing to trash and insult people who did exactly what he advised. He didn't just change his mind. We in fact don't really know what he truly believed then or now. I would't believe him now if he told me it was raining.

We don't? I thought we have 16 editions of his book over the course of more than two decades. Certainly one can discern what the man thought then and what he thinks now. And certainly those thoughts have changed, adjusting to changing conditions over the decades. I would hope so, anyway.


(02-10-2012, 07:20 AM)jamesc1 Wrote: Yep, the diss was a good one. Neil was nice enough to send me a copy and it was certainly first rate, well worthy of a doctorate.

Do you know where the dissertation was published as such? I mean, where was it accepted as a dissertation? I can't seem to find it anywhere. I suspect Knightsbridge didn't have the ability to submit its graduates' dissertations for publication.

A key tenet to the validity of a degree program and school at the doctoral level is that the work of its faculty and staff are accepted into the academic literature in order to make their contributions to it. That doesn't seem to be the case here.

Also, I note your comment about the "diss" being worthy of a doctorate. Do you happen to hold a doctorate in this person's field? Or one at all? I'm just wondering where you draw your expertise in such matters, especially since the original thesis (not "diss") was not accepted and published as one. It would be helpful to understand your credentials in this matter. (And since you use a pseudonym on this board, please feel free to hold back any personally identifying information.)

Cheers!Smile
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Quote:A key tenet to the validity of a degree program and school at the doctoral level is that the work of its faculty and staff are accepted into the academic literature in order to make their contributions to it. That doesn't seem to be the case here.

Also, I note your comment about the "diss" being worthy of a doctorate. Do you happen to hold a doctorate in this person's field? Or one at all? I'm just wondering where you draw your expertise in such matters, especially since the original thesis (not "diss") was not accepted and published as one. It would be helpful to understand your credentials in this matter. (And since you use a pseudonym on this board, please feel free to hold back any personally identifying information.)

Why, does every member on ANY dissertation committee hold established expertise in the field? Hmm...not where I studied (all accredited); only one university mandated that the EXTERNAL MEMBER(s) of the jury HAD to be chosen according to relevant expertise in that given field, but the committee had the last word over who qualified.

Quote:the work of its faculty and staff are accepted into the academic literature in order to make their contributions to it. That doesn't seem to be the case here

You mean the scholarly corpus of global warming, mexican flu and race hoaxes?
You know as well as I do that's claptrap like the Rotary club...rotarians certainly aren't bums, but not everything that shines is gold.
A.A Mole University
B.A London Institute of Applied Research
B.Sc Millard Fillmore
M.A International Institute for Advanced Studies
Ph.D London Institute of Applied Research
Ph.D Millard Fillmore
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(03-06-2012, 10:06 AM)Really? Wrote: Also, I note your comment about the "diss" being worthy of a doctorate. Do you happen to hold a doctorate in this person's field? Or one at all? I'm just wondering where you draw your expertise in such matters, especially since the original thesis (not "diss") was not accepted and published as one. It would be helpful to understand your credentials in this matter. (And since you use a pseudonym on this board, please feel free to hold back any personally identifying information.)

You seriously need to see a surgeon to have your nose detached from Bear's ass. I am not sure of your distinction between dissertation and thesis, there is none other than geographical. My good friend, Dr. Douglas, received a doctorate from the Union Institute and U. and I don't believe any of his committee had a degree in his field.
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(03-06-2012, 11:19 PM)ham Wrote:
Quote:A key tenet to the validity of a degree program and school at the doctoral level is that the work of its faculty and staff are accepted into the academic literature in order to make their contributions to it. That doesn't seem to be the case here.

Also, I note your comment about the "diss" being worthy of a doctorate. Do you happen to hold a doctorate in this person's field? Or one at all? I'm just wondering where you draw your expertise in such matters, especially since the original thesis (not "diss") was not accepted and published as one. It would be helpful to understand your credentials in this matter. (And since you use a pseudonym on this board, please feel free to hold back any personally identifying information.)

Why, does every member on ANY dissertation committee hold established expertise in the field? Hmm...not where I studied (all accredited); only one university mandated that the EXTERNAL MEMBER(s) of the jury HAD to be chosen according to relevant expertise in that given field, but the committee had the last word over who qualified.

Quote:the work of its faculty and staff are accepted into the academic literature in order to make their contributions to it. That doesn't seem to be the case here

You mean the scholarly corpus of global warming, mexican flu and race hoaxes?
You know as well as I do that's claptrap like the Rotary club...rotarians certainly aren't bums, but not everything that shines is gold.

I would expect all members of an examining board (not the student's committee, but at the viva) to have the expertise necessary to examine and judge the student's work. Thus, making comments about the quality and worthiness of this person's work should also be backed up by such qualifications--qualifications of subject matter to judge the worthiness of the conclusions and qualifications regarding methodology to judge the dissertation's structure, process, and form. The writer of the opinion may have one, the other, both, or none. Hence, the question.

As for questioning the value of academe, fine. But if that body (scholars) are not to be taken seriously, would not an attempt to join them be even less worthy of praise beyond the criticisms of the work, process, and school issuing the degree? Faking one's way into a club is one thing, but isn't faking one's way into a club not worthy of membership even worse?
(03-07-2012, 12:38 AM)Ben Johnson Wrote:
(03-06-2012, 10:06 AM)Really? Wrote: Also, I note your comment about the "diss" being worthy of a doctorate. Do you happen to hold a doctorate in this person's field? Or one at all? I'm just wondering where you draw your expertise in such matters, especially since the original thesis (not "diss") was not accepted and published as one. It would be helpful to understand your credentials in this matter. (And since you use a pseudonym on this board, please feel free to hold back any personally identifying information.)

You seriously need to see a surgeon to have your nose detached from Bear's ass. I am not sure of your distinction between dissertation and thesis, there is none other than geographical. My good friend, Dr. Douglas, received a doctorate from the Union Institute and U. and I don't believe any of his committee had a degree in his field.

In the UK, for example, a dissertation is performed by an undergraduate. The doctoral candidate prepares a thesis. The opposite is true in the U.S.

Normally, I would caution against relying on anecdotal evidence to make broad conclusions. But since you have offered one, if your anecdote is false, does that defeat your argument? (Careful....)
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Quote:As for questioning the value of academe, fine. But if that body (scholars) are not to be taken seriously, would not an attempt to join them be even less worthy of praise beyond the criticisms of the work, process, and school issuing the degree? Faking one's way into a club is one thing, but isn't faking one's way into a club not worthy of membership even worse?

Maybe you just crave respect from people at your ale house and biking club?
A.A Mole University
B.A London Institute of Applied Research
B.Sc Millard Fillmore
M.A International Institute for Advanced Studies
Ph.D London Institute of Applied Research
Ph.D Millard Fillmore
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(03-07-2012, 01:23 AM)Really? Wrote: In the UK, for example, a dissertation is performed by an undergraduate. The doctoral candidate prepares a thesis. The opposite is true in the U.S.

Like I friggin said.


(03-07-2012, 01:23 AM)Really? Wrote: Normally, I would caution against relying on anecdotal evidence to make broad conclusions. But since you have offered one, if your anecdote is false, does that defeat your argument? (Careful....)

Like you could ever have a fully qualified committee for a self designed degree.


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#28
Normally, I would caution against relying on anecdotal evidence to make broad conclusions. But since you have offered one, if your anecdote is false, does that defeat your argument? (Careful....)
Quote:Like you could ever have a fully qualified committee for a self designed degree.

Of course you can. In fact, you can surround yourself with committee members who are expert on the process, content, or both. This is what doctoral students do all the time, regardless of the person-centered nature (or lack thereof) of the degree program.

I see that there is no follow-up to your assertion (which happens to be false, as anyone can verify). Oh, well.


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#29
What is this? Some asshole pretending to be someone of significance comes here to pick a fight with anyone and everyone. He probably actually thinks someone can win an internet argument. Sounds like Gus. Not smart enough to be Dayson. Not stupid enough to be Huffman.
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(03-08-2012, 12:03 PM)Ben Johnson Wrote: What is this? Some asshole pretending to be someone of significance comes here to pick a fight with anyone and everyone. He probably actually thinks someone can win an internet argument. Sounds like Gus. Not smart enough to be Dayson. Not stupid enough to be Huffman.

Fights? Hardly. Winning? Not interested. Your ad hominem is interesting, however. But why bother? Why not just engage instead? Of course, that too comes with risks. Good luck with that.
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