O'Block Sues Bear

[Herbert Spencer]

Typical Klempner hyperbole. As we suspected, he left out the important part:

5. Klempner agreed to remove all the defamatory statements that he had posted to the internet about O'Block and his businesses.

So says a reliable source close to the proceedings. Given the vile and unwarranted assaults against him, it seems uncommonly gracious of O'Block to dismiss his case. I wouldn't expect other victims of the notorious Janus of DL and his klones to be quite so understanding.

Is it written somewhere that "leaving out the bad parts" isn't pretty much exactly the same thing as lying? Too bad Klempner doesn't have access to a professional ethicist.

As we know, no good deed goes unpunished. O'Block graciously agreed to dismiss his defamation case again Bear in return for Bear agreeing to remove all his defamatory statements about O'Block.

So now when Bear wants to make a defamatory statement about O'Block, or when he wants to pimp somebody else who is making such statements, he just gets Goose to do it for him. You know Goose didn't find this on his own. But since PBS has even less credibility than DD, I doubt anyone with a brain will be taking any of it seriously.

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FRONTLINE also examines what it takes to become credentialed in forensics by the American College of Forensics Examiners International (ACFEI). “It was like an open-book exam basically, and I passed,” says Leah Bartos, a journalism graduate student at UC Berkeley, who demonstrates that for $660 and a few hours taking an open-book exam online, she became certified as a forensic consultant by ACFEI. Bergman’s interview with former CEO John Bridges indicates that 99 percent of those who apply online will become certified by the organization. “There can be no meaningful exam that has a 99 percent pass rate,” admits forensic guru and ACFEI spokesman Cyril Wecht, whose signature appears on ACFEI certificates.

http://www.degreediscussion.com/forums/v...4&start=15

[Winston Smith]

So now when Bear wants to make a defamatory statement about O'Block, or when he wants to pimp somebody else who is making such statements, he just gets Goose to do it for him. You know Goose didn't find this on his own.

You probably are right about that. Aside from Goose's obvious lack of motivation of late, there are some rather clear signs of Klempner's connection.

"FRONTLINE correspondent Lowell Bergman" is a journalism professor at UC Berkeley. In case his connection to Berkeley and PBS wasn't enough proof he is a socialist dirtbag, he studied under the "Father of the New Left" Herbert Marcuse. His granny was a union goon, just like Klempner's.

"Leah Bartos, a journalism graduate student at UC Berkeley" is in fact a holder of a Masters of Journalism degree from that same program.

Who else do we know who holds a Masters of Journalism from Berkeley? Why, Klempner himself, of course.

Who do you think was feeding Bergman and Bartos the dirt on O'Block, probably at the same time he was promising to remove his slanderous comments from the internet? There's a reason he's called The Janus of Millism. What are the odds of O'Block and his small, private business getting a fair shake from this incestuous sewer of leftist rabble?

[bigfoot]

I'm glad that O'Block is suing Bear. Sweeeeeeet. Bout time somebody went after this guy. He continues to behave in a "less than wonderful way" on the internet....rotflmao!

[Martin Eisenstadt]

What are the odds of O'Block and his small, private business getting a fair shake from this incestuous sewer of leftist rabble?

Here are a couple of the highlights from the Frontline hatchet job:

Then, in 2002, the story broke about the cat. O’Block remains vexed by what he calls a “stunt” orchestrated by a member of a competing professional organization.

“First of all, ACFEI did not certify a cat…[It] certified a human being who used fraudulent credentials and called himself Dr. Katz,” O’Block wrote in an email.

O’Block vehemently denies that ACFEI is a diploma mill, saying the group has thousands of satisfied members. He has filed five lawsuits in the last year against individuals — mostly bloggers — who have posted statements O’Block claims are defamatory about his organizations. One is pending. The others have been dismissed by courts or at the parties’ request after bloggers agreed to take down posts.

Wecht said he doubted that having the certificate on my resume would be enough to persuade a court to allow me to give expert testimony. Any decent lawyer, he said, could easily cast doubt upon my qualifications.

“A kid right out of law school would say, ‘Ma’am, just exactly what is your training?’” Wecht said. “The point I’m making, you see, is that that piece of paper doesn’t mean that much.”

So if a piece of paper doesn't mean that much, what's the big deal? If any lawyer easily can expose a fake "expert" with no training or experience, what is the point?

In its 2009 report, the National Academy of Sciences called for several measures to address systemic flaws involving forensic examiners and expert testimony.

Certification should be mandatory for forensics professionals and should be overseen by a centralized credentialing agency, the report said.

A "centralized credentialing agency"????? Oh, you mean like the government? And isn't that really what's it's all about? The statists want Big Brother's iron hand to certify everything you do, big and small.

[Don Dresden]

What are the odds of O'Block and his small, private business getting a fair shake from this incestuous sewer of leftist rabble?

Kind of funny to see all these Berkeley-educated dopes getting their panties in a twist because somebody uses the term "college." They seem to consider it highly suspect that O'Block calls his organization the "American College of Forensic Examiners Institute."

Has anyone ever introduced them to the concept that words can have different meanings depending on the context?

Or is it that they know perfectly well that O'Block means "an organized body of persons engaged in a common pursuit or having common interests or duties" and not "an independent institution of higher learning offering a course of general studies leading to a bachelor's degree," but they figure the average fool watching PBS probably doesn't?

Just one more reason why PBS sucks.

col·lege
noun, often attributive \ˈkä-lij\

Definition of COLLEGE

1: a body of clergy living together and supported by a foundation

2: a building used for an educational or religious purpose

3 a: a self-governing constituent body of a university offering living quarters and sometimes instruction but not granting degrees <Balliol and Magdalen Colleges at Oxford> —called also residential college

...b: a preparatory or high school

...c: an independent institution of higher learning offering a course of general studies leading to a bachelor's degree; also: a university division offering this

...d: a part of a university offering a specialized group of courses

...e: an institution offering instruction usually in a professional, vocational, or technical field <business college>

4: COMPANY, GROUP; specifically: an organized body of persons engaged in a common pursuit or having common interests or duties

5 a: a group of persons considered by law to be a unit

...b: a body of electors — compare ELECTORAL COLLEGE

6: the faculty, students, or administration of a college

See college defined for English-language learners »
See college defined for kids »

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/college

[curiosity]

Going out on a limb here, but I figured I would give it a shot and ask all of you.


Does anyone have any information on who doctordoctor01 is on the degree discussion boards? Below is a link to the thread titled "Tick tick tick..." . It is the 6th post on the 1st page.

http://www.degreediscussion.com/forums/v...f=2&t=7754

[Ben Johnson]

It is the 6th post on the 1st page.

If he did 1,000 posts all would bear the number 1,000. It isn't a count, it's a total.

I have no clue as to identity. Not enough posts to attempt to put together an identity. Someone who posts here hacked the site a while back. While I doubt he collected info helping with identities, who knows?

[Herbert Spencer]

Does anyone have any information on who doctordoctor01 is on the degree discussion boards? Below is a link to the thread titled "Tick tick tick..." . It is the 6th post on the 1st page.

http://www.degreediscussion.com/forums/v...f=2&t=7754

Kind of funny how people suddenly started coming out of the woodwork to post on that thread, isn't it? Looks like "doctordoctor01" has made only four total posts, and three of them were on that thread. The other was on a thread about Logos Theological Seminary in North Carolina.

If I had to guess I'd say it was someone from "a competing organization," as Dr. O'Block phrases it. Not likely one of the DD regulars, if only because the posts show somebody may have taken the trouble to actually look up info from reliable sources (state corporate filings, non-profit tax records), rather than the usual guesswork, supposition, speculation, etc. we see from the "experts."

I would bet that Klempner knows who it is, probably because he put them up to it. He isn't likely to tell you if you ask, but he just might have mentioned their name in one of his books.

Goose probably knows too, so if you are serious you could subpena his website records for an IP address. Or threaten to sue him and hope he coughs it up because he can't afford any more legal fees.

Gustavo Armando Sainz y Gonsalez
7765 141st St SW
Miami, Florida 33158

(You may have to take a number, as Goose still seems to be very popular with process servers. )

[bigfoot]

A very close friend of mine is an attorney...he was voted "number 1" attorney in his county... twice! He and I have had many conversations concerning law and defamation and personal injury. If you plan on suing someone for defamation...you better be squeaky clean..."discovery" is a real bitch...depositions get ugly, "public record" can become an embarrassment. I can't imagine Bear suing to many people for defamation...unless it's for the most outrageous kind of slander...his past is pretty shocking, what with the wacky phone calls to women and crank calling people's places of employment, and a host of other deviant behavior...he would be screwed,glued and tattooed so fast it would make your head spin... He probably looks back and wishes he were "squeaky clean"...them's the breaks...LOL!

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Bear/Klempner chose to "play in the muck" a loooong time ago...chickens come home to roost, eh Bear?

[curiosity]

Goose probably knows too, so if you are serious you could subpena his website records for an IP address. Or threaten to sue him and hope he coughs it up because he can't afford any more legal fees.

Gustavo Armando Sainz y Gonsalez
7765 141st St SW
Miami, Florida 33158

Thanks for the information.

Just so I understand you correctly, you are saying or at least implying that Gonsalez is the owner of degreediscussion.com? I noticed that this person was an admin on the site, but did not know they were also the owner.

Interesting...