Janko's New Gig?
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All this time we thought the slimy bastard was dead. Turns out he was just doing a Huck Finn so he could relocate to Gujarat and open a clothing store dedicated to his hero, the late 88 himself.

Quote:'Hitler' clothing store stirs anger in India
By Penny MacRae | AFP – 11 hrs ago

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A security guard looks on from the roof of the 'Hitler' clothing store in Ahmedabad on August 28. Members of the Jewish community in the western Indian state have urged the shop owners to change the name of the store, which was opened on August 19

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One of the two Indian owners of the 'Hitler' clothing store -- Rajesh Shah -- poses with a visiting card at his shop in Ahmedabad on August 28. Shah insisted that until the store opened he did not know who Adolf Hitler was and that Hitler was a nickname given to the grandfather of his store partner because "he was very strict".

The owner of an Indian clothing store said Wednesday that he would only change its name from "Hitler" if he was compensated for re-branding costs, amid a growing row over the new shop.

The outlet, which sells Western men's wear, opened 10 days ago in Ahmedabad city in the western state of Gujarat with "Hitler" written in big letters over the front and with a Nazi swastika as the dot on the "i".

"I will change it (the name) if people want to compensate me for the money we have spent -- the logo, the hoarding, the business cards, the brand," Rajesh Shah told AFP.

He put the total costs at about 150,000 rupees ($2,700).

Shah insisted that until the store opened he did not know who Adolf Hitler was and that Hitler was a nickname given to the grandfather of his store partner because "he was very strict".

"I didn't know how much the name would disturb people," he told AFP by telephone from Ahmedabad. "It was only when the store opened I learnt Hitler had killed six million people."

Members of the tiny Jewish community in Ahmedabad condemned the store's name, while a senior Israeli diplomat said the embassy would raise the matter "in the strongest possible way."

"People use such names mostly out of ignorance," Israel's Mumbai Consul General Orna Sagiv told AFP.

Esther David, a prominent Indian writer in Ahmedabad who is Jewish, said she was "disturbed and distressed" by the shop, but added that some Indians used the word "Hitler" casually to describe autocratic people.

David said Jewish residents had sought to change Shah's mind about the store's name and told him about the Holocaust.

The row evoked memories of a controversy six years ago when a Mumbai restaurant owner called his cafe "Hitler's Cross" and put a swastika on the hoarding, claiming Hitler was a "catchy" name.

The restaurant owner eventually agreed to change the name after protests by the Israeli embassy, Germany and the US Anti-Defamation League.

Hitler attracts an unusual degree of respect in some parts of India, with his book "Mein Kampf" a popular title in bookshops and on street stalls.

Gujarat schoolbooks issued by the Hindu nationalist state government were criticised a few years ago for praising Hitler as someone who gave "dignity and prestige" to the German government.
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The use of the Swastika in Hinduism predates the Nazis by thousands of years so the Jews can pretty much screw off but with the name Hitler they might have a point.

The Finns whose use of the Swastika predates the Nazis still use it. The emblem of the 45th Division was a Swastika. Making a very common symbol verboten because Nazi Germany used it is silly.
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(09-01-2012, 03:20 PM)Ben Johnson Wrote: The use of the Swastika in Hinduism predates the Nazis by thousands of years so the Jews can pretty much screw off but with the name Hitler they might have a point.

The Finns whose use of the Swastika predates the Nazis still use it. The emblem of the 45th Division was a Swastika. Making a very common symbol verboten because Nazi Germany used it is silly.

True. The Swastika is found in Hindu as well as Buddhist temples.

I would add that in World War II, the Nazis actually had Indians fighting on their side. A little known unit called Azad Hind Fauj (Hindi: आज़ाद हिन्द), or the Indian National Army existed.

They were recruited from Indian prisoners of war.

They were used mostly for propaganda purposes but there were some rare instances in which they were deployed, particularly in occupied France.

Read the true story here....

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I would say that their story has similarities to the Hitler's ROA or Russian Liberation Army. Like this group they were recruited among POWs. But thats an entirely different story.
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(09-14-2012, 09:30 AM)Virtual Bison Wrote: I would add that in World War II, the Nazis actually had Indians fighting on their side....

I would say that their story has similarities to the Hitler's ROA or Russian Liberation Army. Like this group they were recruited among POWs. But thats an entirely different story.

A similar phenomenon during the American Civil War: Black Confederates in the Civil War. Not POWs but brave men fighting for their country.

It seems that the participants don't always consult with the revisionist historians before joining the fray. This makes it awkward to "explain" the conflict in ideological terms when the facts demonstrate otherwise.
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(09-14-2012, 12:15 PM)Don Dresden Wrote: It seems that the participants don't always consult with the revisionist historians before joining the fray. This makes it awkward to "explain" the conflict in ideological terms when the facts demonstrate otherwise.

Of course no-one actually believes that the civil war had anything to do with slavery. It had everything to do with the states' right to leave the Union.

The immediate cause of the war was the shelling of Fort Sumter. The Union did not recognize the secession of the states so considered it an act of war. I don't notice the word slavery in any of this. The word popped up a couple years later.

The North treated the South like dog crap and when they quit decided to kill them in large numbers so they could get them back and treat them like dog crap again.
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One of the best treatments of the topic:

http://www.amazon.com/South-Right-James-...+was+right
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#7
Another Janko sighting, this time in Cincinnati...or maybe LA? For a dead guy he gets around more than Elvis. Clearly that was a typo; should have been John Adolf-Hitler, with a hyphen.

Quote:'Hitler' appears on Ohio voter registration form
By Eric Shawn
Published November 03, 2012

Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, and the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys, including Quarterback Tony Romo, were names that ACORN workers attempted to register to vote during the 2008 presidential election.

The ensuing outrage sparked a voter registration fraud scandal that helped lead to the activist group's demise, and put new focus on the integrity of third-party voter registration efforts during Presidential elections.

Now, four years later, the name: John Adolf Hitler, was one of those turned in on a voter registration form collected by another group in Cincinnati, according to the Hamilton County Board of Elections.

"It's certainly not a joke. In Ohio, that kind of activity is a felony," says Alex Triantafilou, an Elections Board member who also serves as the Chairman of the county's Republican party.

"Any person who would engage in that kind of conduct with something as serious to our democracy as voting, is highly irresponsible and potentially criminal...We have someone doctoring registrations, and the next step would be a serious move toward fraudulent voting. We are worried about it.”

The listing, "Adolf Hitler, John...666 Heltz...la," puts his supposed residence in Los Angeles.

It was part of a batch of roughly 200 voter registrations that election officials say were flagged as possibly fraudulent, forged, or duplicated by the group that collected them, FieldWorks, a private Washington, D.C. based firm.

FieldWorks, says it works largely with Democratic candidates, causes and progressive organizations collecting signatures for voter registration or ballot initiatives across the country. . . .
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(10-31-2012, 11:30 AM)farmboy Wrote: One of the best treatments of the topic:

http://www.amazon.com/South-Right-James-...+was+right

What was old is new again: White House website deluged with secession petitions from 20 states
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(11-13-2012, 04:40 PM)Armando Ramos Wrote:
(10-31-2012, 11:30 AM)farmboy Wrote: One of the best treatments of the topic:

http://www.amazon.com/South-Right-James-...+was+right

What was old is new again: White House website deluged with secession petitions from 20 states

Yeah, to bad it didn't go anywhere.
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(09-01-2012, 03:20 PM)Ben Johnson Wrote: The use of the Swastika in Hinduism predates the Nazis by thousands of years so the Jews can pretty much screw off but with the name Hitler they might have a point.

The Finns whose use of the Swastika predates the Nazis still use it. The emblem of the 45th Division was a Swastika. Making a very common symbol verboten because Nazi Germany used it is silly.

I am back after a long time....

Now, as a German let me say this: The swastika is a religious symbol widely used in Asia both in Hinduism and Buddhism. I have seen it so many times there. It has been misused by the German Nazis, but they have never been the experts to make "good" use of it.

Using the name "Hitler" for a business in India is perhaps idiotic and attests to a business owner with a bit of a weird taste, to say the least.

What should really bother me is the people whose feelings may be hurt by this. I have some Jewish friends, and I would not like to see their feelings hurt by this. I would stand up and speak out against such a thing.
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