Chip's occupation...To the Folks at Degreeinfo
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His occupation is to find, boys, 18yrs old +1 day that look as young as they possibly can and take pornographic pictures of them to pander and sell to child pedophiles who ultimately get off thinking and fantasizing they are young boys, children.  That is the closest the pedophiles can get to something they want and not go to jail.

That's what he does for a living.  Chip feeds and produces work to that industry.

Folks at degreeinfo---

That is the moral backbone of the place you post at...So throw all the stones you want.

The folks at Degreediscussion might be full of stalkers, liars, and assholes, but at least they drew the line there and left degreeinfo when they found out what funded Chip and what funded degreeinfo.
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#2
It's the only way to be sure.

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#3
Chip really is one sick MFer and an all round POS. The gay stuff is bad enough but morally and ethically you have crossed the line when you intentionally pander to deviates who want to see minors. Wasn't one of Bear's daughters an "ethicist"? I've never heard of one but then we have a president who was a community organizer so I guess it may be legit.
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Vankirk: "Wasn't one of Bear's daughters an "ethicist"? I've never heard of one but then we have a president who was a community organizer so I guess it may be legit."

Bear: My wife of 51 years earned her Ph.D. in philosophy (ethics) from Vanderbilt University. She has taught the subject at Berkeley City College for 15 years, and works with private clients. In a recent case, for instance, she helped a small town school board work through the matter of having a principal who was discovered to have bought a fake Master's degree online . . . but whom everyone agreed was doing a terrific job, and had done so for decades.
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(01-10-2015, 07:00 AM)JohnBear Wrote: Vankirk: "Wasn't one of Bear's daughters an "ethicist"? I've never heard of one but then we have a president who was a community organizer so I guess it may be legit."

Bear: My wife of 51 years earned her Ph.D. in philosophy (ethics) from Vanderbilt University. She has taught the subject at Berkeley City College for 15 years, and works with private clients. In a recent case, for instance, she helped a small town school board work through the matter of having a principal who was discovered to have bought a fake Master's degree online . . . but whom everyone agreed was doing a terrific job, and had done so for decades.

I just checked in to see what was happening at DL Truth and to my amazement (and good fortune), found out that the iconic ""Father of Distance Education" (as it was called back in the 80's), Dr. John B. Bear was posting here. Let me take the opportunity to wish you a Happy New Year JB! I'm glad to hear that you and your family are all doing well. 

While there are so many things to say and the proverbial so little time to do it, may I ask what is your current view of the state of DL with respect to accreditation? Is regional accreditation like a medallion cab or a liquor license in that it makes the holder almost immune from outside competition? Is it even possible for a new school to get off the ground or has that time passed?

Additionally, do you have any strong feelings on the rise (and recent fall) of for-profits and their place at the collegiate/university level? Thanks Doc.
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Dear L. A.

Thank you for your cordial letter. Y’know, in fourteen years of hanging out on those other two education forums, no one ever asked me such good (and challenging) questions. I have been enjoying thinking about my answer, and intend to post it here in a week or so.
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(01-05-2015, 05:47 AM)Geoff Vankirk Wrote: Chip really is one sick MFer and an all round POS. The gay stuff is bad enough but morally and ethically you have crossed the line when you intentionally pander to deviates who want to see minors. Wasn't one of Bear's daughters an "ethicist"? I've never heard of one but then we have a president who was a community organizer so I guess it may be legit.
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Now let's be fair. Chip did help JohnB better understand the utility of the unaccredited degrees. With his (Chip) unusual tastes he and Lev brought John to a new awareness of how schools were accepted. John even lists these freaks at the front of his later guides as his faithful helpmates. I'm sure they brought some great facts and ideas, considering their, shall we say, unusual lifestyles. What a bunch of losers and freaks John picked to back his reputation, such as it is, on.
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(06-05-2015, 07:05 AM)jhc7 Wrote: Now let's be fair. Chip did help JohnB better understand the utility of the unaccredited degrees. With his (Chip) unusual tastes he and Lev brought John to a new awareness of how schools were accepted. John even lists these freaks at the front of his later guides as his faithful helpmates. I'm sure they brought some great facts and ideas, considering their, shall we say, unusual lifestyles. What a bunch of losers and freaks John picked to back his reputation, such as it is, on.

You raise an interesting issue.  

Assuming Klempner is not a pervert himself, why else would he hang around such an unsavory collection of vile reprobates?  Klempner thought he was just pulling a Tom Sawyer--conning the naïve into providing him with free labor to line his own pockets in return for the glory of a brief credit in one of his obscure little books.  

But then Klempner clearly changed in his outlook toward unaccredited schools.  Where once they were, at least, tolerated and more often than not encouraged and even touted, suddenly he jumped on the "unaccredited is evil" bandwagon.  We assumed it was just his usual motivation: there was more money in it for him to promote businesses with billion-dollar endowments than to promote small startups or nonprofit businesses with few or no assets.  But what if it was something else?  

Perhaps the elderly Klempner hit the intellectual skids sooner than we thought?  Perhaps the degenerates who befriended him had in fact realized Klempner was losing it and began to manipulate him to do their deviant bidding?  That might explain how the holder of one day's "good choice" degree suddenly became the next day's "buffoon."  Once the perverts had succeeded in infiltrating and taking over the higher education establishment, the last thing they would want is, say, religious groups or liberty-minded entrepreneurs competing against their entrenched interests.  Who better to use to drive a stake in the heart of freedom than one of it's previously staunch advocates?  The obvious inconsistencies could be explained away simply as "evolution" the way Dear Leader covers his lies, or attacked ad hominem as "degree mill propaganda."

The problem I see with that scenario is that you would have to believe that a duo of deviant dolts like Tailpipe Chip and Levijerkoff were clever enough to hoodwink Klempner.  I think even a doddering, senile Klempner has more on the ball than those two sodomite simpletons combined.
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#9
I've never doubted John's intelligence, and I agree with you. When John becomes past-it, he'll still have more witts about him than any/either of them. It's like a marriage of opposites. Who could have figured it. When I saw their names at the front of a guide I was shocked. These are the people who enter by the back door and leave while its dark. Wouldn't want the neighbors seeing that sort of folk. But to have put their names on work you want taken seriously, amazing choice.

I can only think that John saw a way to take advantage of them and they thought the same of him. Any real academic who sees them listed as research staff (paid or unpaid) is going to be put off pretty quickly.
Chip dropped out of college and does the queer/porn dance. Lev the truck driving fag/bitchy queen show. The others have some interesting habits and choices also. I just can't see the value to our guide, but he had something in mind. He always had some pot boiling. Smile
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#10
1- I understand John's point of view. Nice new stage to sing and dance on. Protected from the hissing and booing of AED.

2- Chip wanted another cash cow to go with the Gay/Porn sites. He wanted to control the way the debates/wars could be held. He wanted an advantage...I can see that.

3-The gang wanted to yell without being yelled at...I can see that. I feel the gang also wanted to be seen as academics discussing DL....Can't see that. You can't make a stallion out of a jack-ass, no matter how loud it brays.

They all got something from Degree Info. Vanity/Applause, money/control, protection/academic standing??? nope.

DI was the perfect mouse trap. It lured you in and then chewed you up. You can't win a debate when the other side makes all the rules. Smile
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