Breyer State
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Quote:I think you are looking at at least $10,000 for a bachelors degree unless you are extremely good at challenge exams.

much, much more.
at US$120 per 1 credit, Adams state is the cheapest accredited college I know of. A B.A in interdisciplinary studies requires 120 credit hours.
120 x120=14.400 US$.
A.A Mole University
B.A London Institute of Applied Research
B.Sc Millard Fillmore
M.A International Institute for Advanced Studies
Ph.D London Institute of Applied Research
Ph.D Millard Fillmore
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#22
Student Wrote:Ha Ha Ha I'm glad that you know these are not States :-).
I'm replying to an ignorant comment that Breyer is not a state and that every one knows that and its not misleading. For that reason I provided a list of real universities with the word State in their name but actually not named after any US State.
If you read my earlier reply you will see the smiling face next to adding them to the flag.
What I think is that State in the name of unrecognized university is misleading. Remember Columbia State University.
Are you a Breyer graduate or their employee or something?

And there is noting wrong with working as a physics teacher. A specially if the position is in a real academic establishment.

I never have seen Breyers material or spoke to one of their instructors so I have no idea what is the level and quality of the education they provide. I simply don't like their misleading in my view name and accreditation etc.
It apears that there is a lot of negative info on the web about them.

Its a business if they are legitimate than who am I to deside.
What I stated is my initial opinion and noting more I'm not on a mission or hunt.

Anyone who would actually select any school based on its name is an idiot. If the idiot says he was "tricked" by the usage of the word "state" in the name, into believing it was sanctioned, accredited, approved or whatever by some state, or that this name makes his degree the same as a Havard degree, then he is a also a fibber.
Even a fool would know better.

PS: Your long list and defence of the physics teaching position is most telling... ;-)
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#23
Whatever Wrote:
Student Wrote:Ha Ha Ha I'm glad that you know these are not States :-).
I'm replying to an ignorant comment that Breyer is not a state and that every one knows that and its not misleading. For that reason I provided a list of real universities with the word State in their name but actually not named after any US State.
If you read my earlier reply you will see the smiling face next to adding them to the flag.
What I think is that State in the name of unrecognized university is misleading. Remember Columbia State University.
Are you a Breyer graduate or their employee or something?

And there is noting wrong with working as a physics teacher. A specially if the position is in a real academic establishment.

I never have seen Breyers material or spoke to one of their instructors so I have no idea what is the level and quality of the education they provide. I simply don't like their misleading in my view name and accreditation etc.
It apears that there is a lot of negative info on the web about them.

Its a business if they are legitimate than who am I to deside.
What I stated is my initial opinion and noting more I'm not on a mission or hunt.

Anyone who would actually select any school based on its name is an idiot. If the idiot says he was "tricked" by the usage of the word "state" in the name, into believing it was sanctioned, accredited, approved or whatever by some state, or that this name makes his degree the same as a Havard degree, then he is a also a fibber.
Even a fool would know better.

PS: Your long list and defence of the physics teaching position is most telling... ;-)

Name recognition of the school is for many people one of the major factors in selecting university.
Teaching is one of the honorable professions on earth.
Name of university is something a combination of reputation, academic standing, marketing and couple of other important factors.

Some select easy degree schools that sound autehntic to trick HR and other people in to believing they have a valuable degree.
Every one knows that adding the word State in to the name of the unrecognized university serves for deceitful practice of making it attractive to easy degree rout people.

No one claims that university name is the only factor in selecting university.
And let me tell you something that you already know.
Degree Mill operators dream and their clients is to have as mach as posible authentic sounding name university and accrediting agency.
Double whammy.
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#24
There are thousands of unrecognized colleges in the U.S. They give themselves all sorts of names. If someone is basing a choice or giving acceptance, based on the name of an unknown college, they are nuts.

Mountain State College is an accredited college and I doubt many HRM's have ever heard of it. If they accept it based on the name, too bad, that's their problem. Lazy HRM's can't blame the school for their lack of effort and knowledge. If someone wants to know what a college is or isn't, they should check.
James
A.S., B.S., M.B.A.
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#25
Quote:Degree Mill operators dream and their clients is to have as mach as posible authentic sounding name university and accrediting agency.
Double whammy.

not necessarily
MILLARD FILMORE
LONDON INSTITUTE OF APPLIED RESEARCH
INTERNATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ADVANCED STUDIES
International College of Hotel Management

have no particularly "authentic sounding" names...
You are lucky...you can seek insight from the very owners/operators...John Bear & George Brown, who these days refer to the above "schools" as mills and frauds.

Quote:No one claims that university name is the only factor in selecting university.
And let me tell you something that you already know.

well, i approached many universities in my life. My first questions were about accreditation & the like, no matter how bothered the counselor/operator might get. Second, querying official databases of accredited institutions. Third, run a net search to spot Capella-Phoenix kind of cases.
That's it.
Of course if I wanted a milled...ehm...very easy degree, but wouldn't want to look absolutely retarded when people find out, I probably would choose an outfit with "state" in its name, accredited by the "Northsouthern association of colleges"...
Rolleyes Rolleyes

some people are "deceived"; others want to "be deceived" so badly.
A.A Mole University
B.A London Institute of Applied Research
B.Sc Millard Fillmore
M.A International Institute for Advanced Studies
Ph.D London Institute of Applied Research
Ph.D Millard Fillmore
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#26
Randall Flagg Wrote:There are thousands of unrecognized colleges in the U.S. They give themselves all sorts of names. If someone is basing a choice or giving acceptance, based on the name of an unknown college, they are nuts.

Mountain State College is an accredited college and I doubt many HRM's have ever heard of it. If they accept it based on the name, too bad, that's their problem. Lazy HRM's can't blame the school for their lack of effort and knowledge. If someone wants to know what a college is or isn't, they should check.

Basically I agree with you.
There are some smart advertisement scams and services that plug in your university once you run a search on Google or Yahoo etc.

Name selection  with having State in it can cause your university to be included among the listings of State universities in search engine etc.
If I ran a business and had web presence I would select a name that can appear among Harvard's etc.
How about this name "Top Tier University ":-) or "Best State University"
Just kidding
On a positive note Breyer site states that their accrediting agency is not recognized by USDE even if later down they state they are accredited.
And they are but by possibly agency created by themselves to accredit themselves for purpose to appear legitimate and be able to say we are accredited.
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#27
Student Wrote:
Randall Flagg Wrote:There are thousands of unrecognized colleges in the U.S. They give themselves all sorts of names. If someone is basing a choice or giving acceptance, based on the name of an unknown college, they are nuts.

Mountain State College is an accredited college and I doubt many HRM's have ever heard of it. If they accept it based on the name, too bad, that's their problem. Lazy HRM's can't blame the school for their lack of effort and knowledge. If someone wants to know what a college is or isn't, they should check.

Basically I agree with you.
There are some smart advertisement scams and services that plug in your university once you run a search on Google or Yahoo etc.

Name selection  with having State in it can cause your university to be included among the listings of State universities in search engine etc.
If I ran a business and had web presence I would select a name that can appear among Harvard's etc.
How about this name "Top Tier University ":-) or "Best State University"
Just kidding
On a positive note Breyer site states that their accrediting agency is not recognized by USDE even if later down they state they are accredited.
And they are but by possibly agency created by themselves to accredit themselves for purpose to appear legitimate and be able to say we are accredited.

Gee...do ya think that maybe getting your degree in less than 3 days might be an indicator - even if the school had a really really great sounding name?
Come on, Student...you know good and well that NO ONE is "deceived" by a school's name, accreditation name or any other window dressing.
That is simply nonsense and everyone knows it.
If a person wants a fast easy degree, and gets a fast easy degree, sounds fair enough to me:-)
Is anyone responsible for their own actions anymore???
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#28
Quote:Name selection with having State in it can cause your university to be included among the listings of State universities in search engine etc.
If I ran a business and had web presence I would select a name that can appear among Harvard's etc.
How about this name "Top Tier University ":-) or "Best State University"

come on!
One thing is the prankster wanting to throw away some money on "x-rays spectacles...see women naked...only $19.99" or "learn Japanese fluently in eleven days using our subliminal tapes...only $99.99"; the prankster needing an excuse to have others call him doctor; the prankster needing some novelty parchment on the same level as "get our instant photographer I.D and start dating beautiful women tonight! Only $29.99".
Another thing is getting an education.
If one really wants an education, one doesn't shop according to ranking in google...google hits can even be bought paying for special affiliate programs...that is why University of Phoenix and degree-printing companies are all over the place.
I use specialized software to run web searches. It queries many different search engines simultaneously, compares results etc etc. Well, there too you get "sponsored links" (flagged as such)...usually sponsored links come from the likes of Warnborough etc.
A.A Mole University
B.A London Institute of Applied Research
B.Sc Millard Fillmore
M.A International Institute for Advanced Studies
Ph.D London Institute of Applied Research
Ph.D Millard Fillmore
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#29
ham Wrote:come on! One thing is the prankster wanting to throw away some money on "x-rays spectacles...see women naked...only $19.99" or "learn Japanese fluently in eleven days using our subliminal tapes...only $99.99"; the prankster needing an excuse to have others call him doctor; the prankster needing some novelty parchment on the same level as "get our instant photographer I.D and start dating beautiful women tonight! Only $29.99".
Another thing is getting an education.
If one really wants an education, one doesn't shop according to ranking in google...google hits can even be bought paying for special affiliate programs...that is why University of Phoenix and degree-printing companies are all over the place.
I use specialized software to run web searches. It queries many different search engines simultaneously, compares results etc etc. Well, there too you get "sponsored links" (flagged as such)...usually sponsored links come from the likes of Warnborough etc.

Reminds me of Bill Huffman's classic statement - "People who think degrees from degree mills are of some use are the same people that think penis enlargement pills actually work". I've oftened wondered how he knew that!
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#30
DR ANATIDAE Wrote:
ham Wrote:come on! One thing is the prankster wanting to throw away some money on "x-rays spectacles...see women naked...only $19.99" or "learn Japanese fluently in eleven days using our subliminal tapes...only $99.99"; the prankster needing an excuse to have others call him doctor; the prankster needing some novelty parchment on the same level as "get our instant photographer I.D and start dating beautiful women tonight! Only $29.99".
Another thing is getting an education.
If one really wants an education, one doesn't shop according to ranking in google...google hits can even be bought paying for special affiliate programs...that is why University of Phoenix and degree-printing companies are all over the place.
I use specialized software to run web searches. It queries many different search engines simultaneously, compares results etc etc. Well, there too you get "sponsored links" (flagged as such)...usually sponsored links come from the likes of Warnborough etc.

Reminds me of Bill Huffman's classic statement - "People who think degrees from degree mills are of some use are the same people that think penis enlargement pills actually work". I've oftened wondered how he knew that!

Good one!!

He sounds like a very unhappy customer. Maybe he tried both. Rolleyes
James
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