Virginia University of Lynchburg

[Gabe]

HBCU, TRACS accredited. Now offering online B.A. and M.A. in Organization Management:http://www.vul.edu/om2/index.html

For interested veterans/active duty personnel: Tuition is $250.00 pch which is the current TA cap rate plus a $150.00 tech fee per semester. All questions about the program are pretty much addressed on the website.

I'm personally rather interested in the MA and have already applied, but I'm not sure I can handle this plus my RA MBA studies.

***Interesting historical note: VUL is the oldest established college in Lynchburg.***

[Don Dresden]

HBCU, TRACS accredited. Now offering online B.A. and M.A. in Organization Management: http://www.vul.edu/om2/index.html

Thanks for that, Gabe.  Interesting and encouraging to see an HBCU embracing DL and program innovation.  As you may know, many HBCU's now are "struggling."  (See, e.g., HBCUs Drawing Scrutiny)

As a baseball fan I see a sad parallel between the demise of the Negro Leagues following integration and the current HBCU situation.  

The article cited above quotes Justice Thomas in United States v. Fordice: “I think that it is undisputable that these institutions have succeeded in part because of their distinctive histories and traditions,” he said. “… It would be ironic, to say the least, if the institutions that sustained blacks during segregation were themselves destroyed in an effort to combat its vestiges.”

As the HCBU's traditional constituency (i.e., African-American students) continues to be co-opted by the wealthy private and government interests, continued survival of these institutions requires them to develop a new constituency.   Adopting innovative distance learning programs opens doors to a broad new range of students.  

Ironic also is that institutions created to serve people traditionally excluded from the mainstream can find their salvation not by focusing narrowly on the race of their potential students but rather by serving students not being served effectively by traditional schools.  

[Gabe]

It would be ironic, to say the least, if the institutions that sustained blacks during segregation were themselves destroyed in an effort to combat its vestiges.”

Excellent point. I'm not black, but I'm also not afraid to list a HBCU on my resume if I do actually go ahead and to the M.A. program. Frankly, I tend to like the history of HBCU's if nothing else.

[Don Dresden]

Frankly, I tend to like the history of HBCU's if nothing else.

Same here, Gabe.  I admire the self-reliance and independence these schools have shown over time (a long time).  And although they were established in what many might call a racially intolerant environment, the fact that they survived for so long is testament to the positive character of our nation, which once allowed all people to do their thing without regard to race, religion, etc.  If today’s wealthy higher education cartel had existed back then it would have stomped these small schools out of existence, crying “unaccredited.”  Anti-Christian bigots like Klempner, Contreras and Leftover would be attacking them as “substandard.”

I’ve never heard of HBCU status as being a negative in any context.  Fact is, most people don’t have a clue what it means, and those who do know share our appreciation for the history behind them.  I know an Iranian guy who got his masters degree at an HBCU before picking up his PhD at Oklahoma.  Obviously the HBCU was no impediment to his studies, and if anything might have given him a boost.

[Brian Crawford]

Frankly, I tend to like the history of HBCU's if nothing else.

Same here, Gabe.  I admire the self-reliance and independence these schools have shown over time (a long time).  And although they were established in what many might call a racially intolerant environment, the fact that they survived for so long is testament to the positive character of our nation, which once allowed all people to do their thing without regard to race, religion, etc.  If today’s wealthy higher education cartel had existed back then it would have stomped these small schools out of existence, crying “unaccredited.”  Anti-Christian bigots like Klempner, Contreras and Leftover would be attacking them as “substandard.”

I’ve never heard of HBCU status as being a negative in any context.  Fact is, most people don’t have a clue what it means, and those who do know share our appreciation for the history behind them.  I know an Iranian guy who got his masters degree at an HBCU before picking up his PhD at Oklahoma.  Obviously the HBCU was no impediment to his studies, and if anything might have given him a boost.

Just a curiosity question to anyone who want to toss in their two cents. Why is it accepatble to have a United Nego College Fund and NAACP, but if the same was done with, for example, a United White College Fund or National Association for the Advancement of White Preople (NAAWP). Everyone would claim theiy were racists or Arian Nation people. It just seems like a reverse descrimination to me.

I realize that people of color were discriminated against at one time, back in the 50s through 60s and before those decades. But now, there are complete departments on university campuses that ensure equality for all.

[ham]

Just a curiosity question to anyone who want to toss in their two cents. Why is it accepatble to have a United Nego College Fund and NAACP, but if the same was done with, for example, a United White College Fund or National Association for the Advancement of White Preople (NAAWP). Everyone would claim theiy were racists or Arian Nation people. It just seems like a reverse descrimination to me.

I realize that people of color were discriminated against at one time, back in the 50s through 60s and before those decades. But now, there are complete departments on university campuses that ensure equality for all.

Interesting enough, studies detailing the attitudes and thought patterns of taxi drivers show that both white and non-white taxi drivers DO profile potential clients according to the same rules.
Since they are potentially at risk, an "African brother" could be "discriminated against" not only by an "Aryan racist", but by a hindu wearing a turban or another "African brother" who wants to make it home for breakfast, forget brotherhoods that will do you no good when you have three bullets in your skull.
All this obsession with discrimination is another fallout of WWII.

[Dennis Ruhl]

Canada solved the problem by stating, in its Charter of Rights, that reverse discrimination is okay to emeliorate a disadvantage caused by race etc etc etc. In practice the word disadvantage tends to be ignored and everyone but Canadian born male Whitie benefits.

I don't mind racial profiling. It shoots me through customs so fast, I bounce off the far wall.

[ham]

Canada solved the problem by stating, in its Charter of Rights,  that reverse discrimination is okay to emeliorate a disadvantage caused by race etc etc etc.  In practice the word disadvantage tends to be ignored and everyone but Canadian born male Whitie benefits.

I don't mind racial profiling.  It shoots me through customs so fast, I bounce off the far wall.

The taxi drivers' issue clearly shows the limits and the grotesque flavour of the post-WWII credo.
Studies clearly showed that when at risk (and taxi drivers often are at risk in certain areas etc ) people all behave the same way.
In other words a taxi driver of colour (or any other designation dear to modern day liberals ) is as likely to want nothing to do with his "brother" African as the next redneck hillbilly...and -to add insult to injury- that very non-white taxi driver might have 'marched for his rights' just the day before with the same people he was shouting slogans in unison with, but whom he'd give no lift just a few hours later...funny, eh?