A Horse of a Different Color- Maybe ?
#1
Now here is a former business partner and a former student of Greenwich University.  Now I wonder if John thinks this degree is real and has weight (OR) is it "Problematic and Too Light?" Did it help Walston sell his book or was that Ph.D. of little or no value.

Rick Walston / Greenwich Link:  

Of course you recognize the author of Walston's Guide to Christian Distance Learning. For now it seems Bear is not inclined to do an outing, but, Walston had best hope no reporter calls up Bear with a request for the dirt on Ric. As we know, in order to get his picture on TV or name in print, Bear is perfectly willing to do him.  But in this case with his own name, John Bear, in the left hand corner of the diploma, perhaps old John would be a little worried about unloading on him.
James
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#2
"Unaccredited schools can range from "merely dreadful to out-and-out diploma mills."
--John Bear--University Business--March 2000  

"Gray's doctorate degree is from an unaccredited school, which is problematic. It holds a lot less weight. People look for respectability. Would he reach millions in sales with the non-Ph.D.? I would guess not."
--John Bear--Inside Edition  

Gray used a school Bear was involved with for years. In fact Bear was part owner of CPU and yet he still did Gray. Is Rick Walston next, who knows?
James
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#3
"Greenwich had fewer than 100 students during the 17 months I was involved, and perhaps 30 graduates. That degree SURELY MET their NEEDS."
--John Bear--AED--1998

On Summit University:
"Operates legally in Louisiana. Dr. Levicoff calls then a diploma mill. I call them an UNACCREDITED school that could ONLY benefit that VERY SMALL MINORITY of people who could benefit, now and in the future, from an unaccredited degree."
--John Bear--AED--1999

He says that unaccredied degrees surely met the needs of students at Greenwich in 1998 and in 1999 he says that only a VERY SMALL MINORITY could benefit from such degrees. One can only shake one's head in wonder at such rapid changes in direction. It's as if truth changes to suit each situation. Sort of a Bill Clinton, or maybe a Frank Abagnale situation, wouldn't you say?
James
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#4
He paid me $20--1995.
He paid me $25--1997.
He paid me $50--1999.
He paid me $30--2001.
He paid me $45--2003.
He still owes me $20--2005.
The SOB never paid me--2007.
What money? --- 2010

The truth is easy--it's hard to keep up with a forever changing story.
Of course by now he's told the stories so many different ways, he may not even remember the truth himself.  HOW SAD!!
James
A.S., B.S., M.B.A.
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#5
Randall Flagg Wrote:He paid me $20--1995.
He paid me $25--1997.
He paid me $50--1999.
He paid me $30--2001.
He paid me $45--2003.
He still owes me $20--2005.
The SOB never paid me--2007.
What money? --- 2010

The truth is easy--it's hard to keep up with a forever changing story.
Of course by now he's told the stories so many different ways, he may not even remember the truth himself.  HOW SAD!!

John B. Bear has continually changes his mind according to his personal needs. He began attacking John Gray when he saw Gray was making more money on book sales than he was. Ironic isn't it, that Bear was part owner of CPU and his wife tried to enroll me into their degree program after John sent me to her.

The same is true when Mel Sudd ran Summit University. He promoted the hell out of it and kissed Mel's butt, then when Chasse took over the helm, Bear feel short of calling them a diploma mill. Bear pulled the same crap when Chasse owned ACU. He said they were fine in his guides and kissed Ray's butt. Then when Ray Chasse died, Bear claimed to have rode by the place to find a mail boxes etc. Even though Ray Chasse used the same mailing address for 30 years.
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#6
Bear operated Greenwich and IIAS from one half of the upstairs office space, of a building in Hawaii about 2500 sq ft., and acts like it was REALLY SOMETHING. He then turns around and ridicules others who operate from modest buildings or homes. Hell, small is small, whether it's a Bear school or some other. According to Bear being small can be very good, and at the same time it is a joke. It just depends on what he is trying to prove at the time. Like a good politician he can tell it either way. Examples Below:
James
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#7
On Pacific Western University:
"They are certainly not illegal, and many people claim to benefit from their degrees. But especially at the bachelor's level, when there are so many regionally accredited schools with non-resident bachelor's programs, which can be even faster and less expensive, I simply COULD NOT RECOMMEND ANY UNACCREDITED SCHOOL."
--John Bear--AED--1998
James
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#8
"But it remains the case that MANY, MANY folks' needs can be filled by degrees from the more reputable unaccredited schools."
--John Bear--College Degrees by Mail--1996--Section: Twelve GOOD Unaccredited Schools--page 165.

In 1996, he tells it one way and in 1998 it's completely different. It is not as he has said that over 30 years things changed. He went from they are good in one year to they are all but useless the next year. Sounds like a business decision to me, not, as he would have you believe, a change in facts.
James
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#9
Admission to traditional graduate schools:
"The trend is strongly in the direction of increased acceptance of alternative degrees, INCLUDING the Better Unaccredited Degrees, for admission to Master's and doctoral programs at traditional universities."
--John Bear--Bears' Guide--1997-page 22

In 1997 good and getting better.
James
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#10
Self-satisfaction:
"This is a perfectly good reason for wanting a degree, and no one should EVER feel embarrassed about it.  Many degree-counseling clients (see appendix C) seek a degree (generally a Doctorate) for self-satisfaction, to gain respect from others, to feel more comfortable with colleagues, or to validate a long and worthwhile career. Such people are Generally Well Satisfied with a degree from one of the more respectable unaccredited schools."
--John Bear--Bear's Guide--1997--page 22

Good reasons in 1997 to get unaccredited degrees and yet one year later, 1998, he can't think of one unaccredited school he would recommend. What a massive shift occured in that one year, how strange, and not over 20-25 years as he now claims. He turned around 180 degrees in one year. Good in 1997, bad in 1998.
James
A.S., B.S., M.B.A.
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