Bear Confirms DesElms/Janko Visit
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Quote:One of the odder moments in the world of forums occurred a few months before uncle janko died. janko phoned me in the middle of the night to say that Gregg DesElms had appeared, unannounced and uninvited, at his front door earlier that day, to discuss certain things that janko had written on this forum. janko said it was quite a surreal several hours, and DesElms left, and that was that. (DesElms lives in northern California; janko lived in rural southern Michigan.)
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Bear had mentioned this incident before but didn't identify the lucky receiver of the surprise visit.  Many of us surmised it was Janko, but now Bear confirms it.

DesElms shows up trick-or-treating at Janko's front door, then a few short weeks later Janko dies mysteriously in a one-car auto accident.  Coincidence?
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Martin Eisenstadt Wrote:DesElms shows up trick-or-treating at Janko's front door, then a few short weeks later Janko dies mysteriously in a one-car auto accident.  Coincidence?

I don't know about actually tinkering with the car, but that meeting had to be quite an eye-opener for Janko.  

No doubt all his miserable life Janko had been an outcast, a loser and non-achiever who imagined he had something on the ball but who couldn't seem to convince anyone else of it despite trying incessantly.  

For the first time in his dolorous existence he had found a little niche for himself, as a loyal member of Bear's stalker crew.  Hell, the mighty Bear even mentioned his name in one of his obscure little books, and spelled it right too.  Wow, now he could hide behind his computer keyboard, spew his bile and bluster, and enjoy the accolades of all the other losers, perverts and non-starters who cling to Bear's robes.

Then suddenly there's a knock on his door, way out in the middle of rural Michigan, and standing before him is Elmer the Whore Meister himself.  Janko's worst fear realized!  Somebody really had wasted the time and money to hunt him down, confront him, and discover what everyone with any sense already knew, that Janko was a wussified little piece of crap who couldn't slug his way out of a wet paper bag.

Janko surely had read the comments about Elmer here and elsewhere.  And suddenly he realized we were right!  Elmer really was a nut, and the people Janko thought were his friends and comrades-in-arms were all just a bunch of stalkers and mental cases.  And even worse, that he had far less to fear from the so-called millists he had been stalking than he did from his new buddies.

Janko's entire reason for existence suddenly vaporized in a flash.  He probably was pissing himself the whole time Elmer was there, fearing he might be gruesomely murdered, or sodomized and mutilated, or forced to consume liquor and drugs.  The sordid possibilities must have upset his already tenuously balanced mind.  

He called his hero, the omniscient KKKlempner, only to realize that his idol considered him a laughable fool.  Klempner viewed the entire incident as just another humorous tale to be spun and milked for entertainment value and profit.  If the laughs came at Janko's expense, who cared?  And the astute readers here deduced exactly who Bear was laughing at, even if he didn't mention him by name.

If Elmer didn't literally drive Janko off the road, he surely contributed to driving the unstable Janko over the edge.  And give Bear an assist.  Tough break Janko, but your life was a small price to pay to provide a funny story in Bear's next book.
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Quote:Gregg DesElms had appeared, unannounced and uninvited, at his front door earlier that day, to discuss certain things that janko had written on this forum. janko said it was quite a surreal several hours

Now the thing I find most disconcerting and laughable is the attempt to bring the internet into real life...perhaps trying to give substance to the make-believe world that some deranged individual considers his own. I have never done that & never will. Since 2001 I barely exchanged a few emails and messages...to my throwaway accounts, that is.  I only made one exception with a woman I knew was real ages ago, but I wouldn't do it now even if no harm befell me; still, I consider it very unwise.
A long trip to discuss things said on a forum online...and that for several hours?! Amazing...

Quote:No doubt all his miserable life Janko had been an outcast, a loser and non-achiever who imagined he had something on the ball but who couldn't seem to convince anyone else of it despite trying incessantly.  

For the first time in his dolorous existence he had found a little niche for himself, as a loyal member of Bear's stalker crew.  Hell, the mighty Bear even mentioned his name in one of his obscure little books, and spelled it right too.  Wow, now he could hide behind his computer keyboard, spew his bile and bluster, and enjoy the accolades of all the other losers, perverts and non-starters who cling to Bear's robes. -...-

Janko surely had read the comments about Elmer here and elsewhere.  And suddenly he realized we were right!  Elmer really was a nut, and the people Janko thought were his friends and comrades-in-arms were all just a bunch of stalkers and mental cases.  And even worse, that he had far less to fear from the so-called millists he had been stalking than he did from his new buddies. -...-

He called his hero, the omniscient KKKlempner, only to realize that his idol considered him a laughable fool.  Klempner viewed the entire incident as just another humorous tale to be spun and milked for entertainment value and profit.  If the laughs came at Janko's expense, who cared?  And the astute readers here deduced exactly who Bear was laughing at, even if he didn't mention him by name.

Well, as I said, the larger than life some people love to sound online, the bigger frauds, losers and butts of all jokes they are in real life. Only if one is a real fraud and has a chipped shoulder as big as Mars, he would 'invest' so much time and effort online feathering a virtual nest that is as inconsistent as any other pipe dream.

I said ages ago that the slick self-promoters (the John Bear and George Gollin of the day ) probably think the worst of their online groupies...but hell, that sells books and promoted Gollin from obscure academic to CHEA officer...

I already mentioned Jordan Maxwell, the investigator of occult and political matters. Viewing many of his videos, it is clear he subtly but substantially spins his story to suit the audience...either increasing the role supposed UFOs play in his conspiracy theories...or maybe it is a satanic angle if the audience are christian bigots...which is funny, because elsewhere he has skinned Christianity alive exposing its many inconsistencies.
Why?
He is no fool, but he needs to make a living.
Of course being invited to lecture in front of an audience with a Christian bias and offering a critical view of their ideas is a recipe to be struck off the call roll of that speaking circuit.
A.A Mole University
B.A London Institute of Applied Research
B.Sc Millard Fillmore
M.A International Institute for Advanced Studies
Ph.D London Institute of Applied Research
Ph.D Millard Fillmore
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Albert Hidel Wrote:RE: DesElms visit to Uncle Janko in 2008

Janko's entire reason for existence suddenly vaporized in a flash.  He probably was pissing himself the whole time Elmer was there, fearing he might be gruesomely murdered, or sodomized and mutilated, or forced to consume liquor and drugs.  The sordid possibilities must have upset his already tenuously balanced mind.  

That paints quite a picture and is entirely too funny for this hour of the morning. To quote the late Uncle J, "ROFLMAO!!!"  TongueTongueTongue
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Has anyone tried to buy porn with Janko's credit card number lately? I assume it has been cancelled by now.
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Albert Hidel Wrote:Somebody really had wasted the time and money to hunt him down, confront him, and discover what everyone with any sense already knew, that Janko was a wussified little piece of crap who couldn't slug his way out of a wet paper bag.

You forget that he manhandled the Nazi stormtroopers. Those WCTU members are tough. WCTU?? WTF??
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Ben Johnson Wrote:Has anyone tried to buy porn with Janko's credit card number lately?  I assume it has been cancelled by now.

Probably over limit from all of janko's outcall massage charges.
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Quote:You forget that he manhandled the Nazi stormtroopers. Those WCTU members are tough. WCTU?? WTF??

Logic?
Scarcer than water on planet X, if you've seen the movie Godzilla vs. Monster Zero.
Uncle Janko, self-proclaimed invalid and a keyboard sociopath claimed he kicked 2 Nazis by the very scruff of their neck out of his church...
Now it'd be the first time I hear that "Nazi storm troopers" go serenade an unknown rural Church (or any church at all, barred maybe WCOTC ).
But with these online frauds and buffoons, be prepared to hear many things for the first time.
I sincerely pity the wild bunch of old goats, jackasses and bigots (twenty-five altogether) who took that fraud uncle Janko seriously without the slightest clue what he was really like and not knowing he went in bed with a gay teen pornographer & other misfits.
A.A Mole University
B.A London Institute of Applied Research
B.Sc Millard Fillmore
M.A International Institute for Advanced Studies
Ph.D London Institute of Applied Research
Ph.D Millard Fillmore
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