"Dr" Bill Grover for candidate in the Hall of Shame
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Quote:Let me add some more input on the gay porn topic. I have lived and worked in China for quite a long time. I have seen things changing in China rapidly and radically. China has a huge labour market for foreign teachers of English As A Second Language. Like in Thailand and Korea, a lot of different kinds of foreign folks apply for and then find a job at a school. Some of them are sincere and well-intentioned, others have their own hidden agenda. One of them with a hidden agenda was an American guy from Kansas by the name of Kevin working as a DOS at Suzhou School of Foreign Languages (a Chinese-run private school in Jiangxi province). This Kevin guy had an intimate relationship with the male school owner, a married Chinese man. What`s worse, he also had the same kind of relationships with his male school students of minor age. People who wanted to report him to the police never really succeeded because of the good relationships the school owner maintained with the police (bribe). That`s China, you know.... They covered all this up.

What I see is that there are certain foreigners coming to work in a country like China with a totally unprofessional and unethical behaviour as teachers. The foreigners are considered "rich" by native standards, and they exploit poor and innocent children sexually because they have got the money to buy everything. This kind of "sexual exploitation" of native women, children - both male and female - in my opinion is a new kind of "colonialism" that I originally thought had long gone. I must say I feel very bitter about it. Child molesters and porns are not only disgusting but also unacceptable and should be brought to full justice - even in China! There are some people working on that Kevin guy and his likes.

I know this is an old thread and post but it really just gets my goat. This Schmidt guy (known as "Turnoi" at one infamous eslteachersboard.com website) took the word of a bitter teacher who worked at the school in question for about 2 1/2 months. This "teacher" was one weird, old gay character who left the school angry and befuddled. Because things didn't go his way, he went to the aforementioned website (along with a handful of other sites) and started spreading rumors about Kevin and other foreign teachers, Chinese staff and administration, the school principal, and even the school itself. He was (and still is I'd imagine) a hateful, bitter old man who couldn't stand to see a decent school get one over on him.

Then Schmidt/Turnoi climbs aboard this weirdo's parade float and starts accepting EVERYTHING he claimed as if it were the holy gospel and begins a campaign against this teacher Kevin and the school. There was never any child molestation, no "sleeping with school owner" business, nothing of the sort. It is now late May of 2012 and let's see:

1) Kevin still works at this school. I don't care how much cover-up one claims happened or is happening, parents would not put up with child molestation! If this were truly happening, I daresay that some hired thug would be meeting Kevin on a dark and deserted street somewhere and take him out. As little as I know about the psyche of a child sexual molester, I know enough that people of that sort usually cannot stop. It's like an addiction or a disease. The dam would break at some point if this behavior was going on for several years.

2) Schmidt/Turnoi in 2009 got a lot of his "facts" a bit askew: The school is not owned by a man, rather a corporation (which has recently changed hands with another corporation). The person he falsely accused is and was the principal of the school. The principal is a married man, yes, with two grown children. His sexuality is certainly not my concern but I see many of the female staff constantly flocking around him (kissing up to him is how I see it) and he just eats it up.

3) Kevin was never a DOS at this school. His current title is full-time 4th grade teacher and part time Academic Adviser. Once again, the ex-teacher made up the "facts" and Schmidt/Turnoi accepted them fully without any sort of investigation into the validity of the statements.

4) The school is not in Jiangxi Province, it's in Jiangsu Province. The school is called "Suzhou Foreign Language School" and not Suzhou School of Foreign Languages.

5) Kevin is openly gay. By that I mean he doesn't date a Chinese girl to try and hide who he is. But gay does not automatically equal child molester, at least not where I am from. The teacher, I've been told, that quit and started posting all this crap on forums is allegedly also gay, so maybe he has some experience himself in the world of child molestation? Don't know, just a thought. Maybe he and Schmidt/Turnoi have or had some sort of "relationship" beyond what any of us would know about so perhaps that is why Schmidt/Turnoi so easily accepted the word of this former teacher? Just speculating, mind you.

6) As far as I can tell (I work in a different department of the school, so don't know him well), Kevin seems to be well-liked and well-respected by many at this school and he's been here for something like seven years so far. I really don't think someone with a dark "secret" would last that long at one establishment pretty much anywhere in the world.

As you can see from Schmidt/Turnoi's posting, it is riddled with errors. However, at that time he was so eager to point an accusatory finger at Kevin (as to "why" is beyond me) that he didn't verify any of the so-called "facts" and just put up some garbled posting and assumed anyone would take it at face value. If you've ever visited his website, you'll see he points that gnarled finger at many a people stopping by with a wide variety of accusations and falsehoods. A "legit" PhD holder probably should do a bit more research and verifications before making such unfounded accusations.

Once things are posted on the internet they are there forever. If Kevin truly were a child molester, then I'd applaud Schmidt/Turnoi for his due diligence. But just throwing muck around here, there, and elsewhere is irresponsible and reprehensible.
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RE: "Dr"  Bill Grover for candidate in the Hall of Shame - by TruthorDare - 05-26-2012, 12:48 PM

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