DesElms Skulking in Yonder Years

[Fort Bragg]

I checked out Janko's post about DesElms from the hacked messages from years ago.  Amazing!  The good thing is they are both dead.  A lot of truly disturbed people haunted degreeinfo.  So many people who had never taken a distance course being so righteously indignant.

" uncle janko Wrote:He said that my identifying him as the person who "outed" [redacted] (a deeply hating prep school teacher known as rocco, mrs rocco, etc on degreeinfo and likely as [redacted] on dl truth (sic) would make him ineligible to be a lawyer in California because of my publicising his fiduciary breach [as moderator of Twinkorama] in giving me this information. [I neglected to raise the fiduciary breach issue about Chip's doubledealing, because DesElms' special fetish is spouting legalese, and I wanted him out of my house ASAP].

He wanted me to withdraw the offending post (which I don't remember at this moment) because the untold millions out there will shy away from doing business with him unless he got me to do this.

He also said that Gus told him to make me withdraw the post, that he was going to contact you, John, and George Gollin about some new grand distance learning venture, and he gave me a big lecture about my cultural problems in thinking ephebophile gay porn was not really a good thing. He said that he and his girlfriend got married but that he has been wandering around all over the country, staying at a Lutheran monastery near Pontiac, selling his now dead mother's house in Gary. He also wanted to know if a visit to Robert Ray Hill by him would help reconcile things and make Hill be nicer, and whether I though he should visit James Crabb and Dennis Ruhl, since these weren't really long drives, etc., etc.

There was also a lot of maundering and evasiveness about his "disappearance". He was shocked that I did not recognise him (I had never seen a photo of him, nor ever seen him in person, needless to say--and hope I never do again.

I am very ill with this parkinsonoid disorder and fibromyalgia, plus trying to finish up the diss (thanks for the bindery info, John!), plus at length successfully fending off the extortionist/fundamentalist wannabe element in mybelovedwisconsinsynod, which wants to squeeze money by threats and charges of "disloyalty" from my church. I needed two hours + with DesElms like a kick in the teeth. I kept it cordial and pretty nonconfrontational, letting his numerous guilt-trip attempts wash off just as I did similar guilt-trip attempts from prisoners when I was a prison chaplain; the more whining, the more hideous the crime was a weirdly accurate rule of thumb.

He got angry when I refused to give him my e-mail address and said I would not talk with him on the phone. I told him to PM me here if he had something to say, provided he altered Gus ahead of time. I did not in any way encourage him to post here, and indeed discouraged him from doing so. We have Myles Calvin; we don't need a major-league folie-de-grandeurist.

He also refused to say exactly what he is doing for a living as he spends months wandering all over North America.

A dear friend of mine in Vancouver is manic-depressive, and once drove from Vancouver to New York to see Ismar Schorsch at the Jewish Theological Seminary in NYC (unannounced). "

[Don Dresden]

I checked out Janko's post about DesElms from the hacked messages from years ago.  Amazing!  The good thing is they are both dead.  A lot of truly disturbed people haunted degreeinfo.  So many people who had never taken a distance course being so righteously indignant.

In the hierarchy of weirdo-ism, you would have Janko in the upper echelon among the most weird. Then you have Elmer, who was so weird that even Janko thought he was weird. And these two were joined by the gay boy pornographer, the convicted ethics violator, the convicted civil rights violator, and the sodomite truck driver among the deviant shot callers at debris inflow. Just the crew of self-appointed experts the world needed to decide what courses normal people should be allowed to take.

[Armando Ramos]

I checked out Janko's post about DesElms from the hacked messages from years ago.  Amazing!  The good thing is they are both dead.  A lot of truly disturbed people haunted degreeinfo.  So many people who had never taken a distance course being so righteously indignant.

Original thread here. 

As i understand it, nobody "hacked" anything, but rather access to the messages was provided to somebody. So assuming you are using "hacked" in the sense meaning obtained through illegitimate means, that would be incorrect. In fact they were obtained with the knowledge and consent of somebody who either intentionally gave access to the board or transmitted legit copies of the posts. No hacking here, bro. And more importantly, in the 15-some years those posts have been on display here, nobody has ever challenged their authenticity.

[Fort Bragg]

I checked out Janko's post about DesElms from the hacked messages from years ago.  Amazing!  The good thing is they are both dead.  A lot of truly disturbed people haunted degreeinfo.  So many people who had never taken a distance course being so righteously indignant.

Original thread here. 

As i understand it, nobody "hacked" anything, but rather access to the messages was provided to somebody. So assuming you are using "hacked" in the sense meaning obtained through illegitimate means, that would be incorrect. In fact they were obtained with the knowledge and consent of somebody who either intentionally gave access to the board or transmitted legit copies of the posts. No hacking here, bro. And more importantly, in the 15-some years those posts have been on display here, nobody has ever challenged their authenticity.

Sure.

[WilliamW]

Sure.

IYKYK.