OREGON like LIBERIA? Same practice followed
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OREGON LIKE LIBERIA OR EAST TIMOR? same practice followed
http://www.osac.state.or.us/oda/unaccredited.html


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For access to Australia™s 24 hour, 7 day a week higher education credential verification system (degreeoftruth Australia), click on the following link: http://www.higheredconsulting.com.au/links.html
http://www.higheredconsulting.com.au/home.html

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HigherEd Consulting has been appointed as the Australasian principal evaluator for the Office of Degree Authorisation, State of Oregon, United States of America

The degreeinfo/discussion board clique at its best.
Now let's turn the audio off while they're yelling abuse: let's ponder the following.

Some of the most prominent Nigeria degree mills had this in common: unbeknowst to the official authority & without any legislative intervention, some bureaucrat at the local higher education office would "let believe" that dodgy institution A, B or C was "accredited" or "registered" through said higher education office, commission, whatever.
At times they even had some low key bureaucrats at some embassy answering emails for "verification".
Said bureaucrats were on the payroll of such dodgy schools.

Now, if we read above, we see mr.Alan Contreras "lets believe" mr.George Brown is Oregon's official "degree evaluator" for AU & NZ.
Brown pushes the envelope further exactly as degree mills do & on his website he instantly becomes "appointed"...
hmm...
it sounds exactly like the dodgiest poste restante LA business, right?

Brown forgets to ask himself all those poignant and erudite questions he would any "school" not pimped by the clique.
In fact the use of the word "accredited" has a precise meaning.
So -in an hypothesis- Brown could "validate" one's Hawaii degree, and that would officially become a full fledged OREGON degree...right?
Oh, no...how do i ever think about it?
He is moral...he just cannot do harm...he didn't spot Thomas Chip White's porn core business in the open because of fervent free speech beliefs...
Again, same pattern as those Nigeria schemes.

Of course if we ask mr.Contreras, he'll just say what the busted african bureaucrats said: that he cannot "appoint" anyone. That due procedure of law hasn't been followed and anyways his intention was just to share information & to recommend one -among many- business he thought legitimate or useful.

Brown just tries to boost his unknown degree validation business misrepresenting its nature to potential buyers.
Same as degree mills do.
Someday he'll say his other cuisine-hospitality sites have been "accredited" as Oregon's official food catering service...but i bet souffles arrive on Contreras' table pretty bleak and coffee is ice cold, from way down in Australia.

Of course now they'll say i'm nit picking...but the devil is in the details, as they tell us over&over about subtilities, meaning of words etc.
Now this (as many others) post doesn't contain any far fetched conspiracy scheme; no profanity; nothing but a few facts, but they will still hide in terror and avoid confrontation.
A.A Mole University
B.A London Institute of Applied Research
B.Sc Millard Fillmore
M.A International Institute for Advanced Studies
Ph.D London Institute of Applied Research
Ph.D Millard Fillmore
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So Oregon's state approval is being done by George Brown. One doubts that is really the case. Brown is hyping again (probably) or Contreras is a bigger fool than I thought. Either way it makes the whole thing look and smell BAD.

These boys never tire of talking about themselves, do they?? They see that it worked for John Bear and Frank Abagnale and hope to cash in themselves. They say a sucker is born every day, maybe, but it's also possible the suckers are tired of paying these clowns for piss poor advice and incorrect information.

Example=MIGS was not what Bear and Douglas said it was. And they told their lies for more than a year, before jumping ship and turning on dear old MIGS. Once good, and then a joke, now dead, but Bear and Douglas rode that poor old horse to death trying to convince us it was a fine race horse. It was just an illegally operating (it was never licensed anywhere in the U.S.) school that never went beyond a joke. But these experts??? Rolleyes did their best to sell it, so Douglas could get a Ph.D. from some toilet.
James
A.S., B.S., M.B.A.
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Randall Flagg Wrote:So Oregon's state approval is being done by George Brown.  One doubts that is really the case.  Brown is hyping again (probably) or Contreras is a bigger fool than I thought.  Either way it makes the whole thing look and smell BAD.

These boys never tire of talking about themselves, do they??  They see that it worked for John Bear and Frank Abagnale and hope to cash in themselves.  They say a sucker is born every day, maybe, but it's also possible the suckers are tired of paying these clowns for piss poor advice and incorrect information.  

Example=MIGS was not what Bear and Douglas said it was. And they told their lies for more than a year, before jumping ship and turning on dear old MIGS.  Once good, and then a joke, now dead, but Bear and Douglas rode that poor old horse to death trying to convince us it was a fine race horse. It was just an illegally operating (it was never licensed anywhere in the U.S.) school that never went beyond a joke. But these experts???  Rolleyes  did their best to sell it, so Douglas could get a Ph.D. from some toilet.

Oh, don't get me started. Smile Then there is the Sheila Danzig ownership of MIGS who was an investor in SRU and provided their "credential evaluation" saying MIGS is equal to any RA school. Not to mention all of her "less than wonderful" work in helping terrorists get into the states. Just put her name in Google and look at all the fine work she does.

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"I have withdrawn from the MIGS Ph.D. program.  It has become clear to me that, despite a wonderful opportunity, they have no intention of running a distance learning graduate school."
--Rich Douglas--Degreeinfo--6-26--2001

"Needless to say, I have, this evening, resigned as a faculty member for MIGS, since my ONLY reason for staying on was my promise to work with Rich in his doctoral program, and I look forward to doing just that in another, happier venue."
--John Bear--Degreeinfo--6-26-2001

Of course it is obvious they had this joint farewell notice planned in advance.  Like a couple of gang members they work in a team to blow the smoke saying MIGS is wonderful and then in combination to cover their trail.  Always confuse and double-speak.  For over a year they say MIGS is real, legitimate, sincere, and then, since that time, they tell us, "But we were misled--we were confused--we didn't know."  On the one hand they want us to call them 'DL Experts' yet look how easily they are lost in the wilderness, maybe, but they were most likely in the know as to how bad MIGS was and really just wanted to use a school that they wrongly believed could be a souce of a degree that Douglas could in some way defend as something. He desperately wanted a Ph.D. to build up his soft resume, but unfortunately he was unwilling to do any serious work so that narrowed it down to schools that would accept his past toilet schools-Excelsior / National-- so that made MIGS or Union as the only options.  MIGS fell apart at the seems and that left the skunk of the RA world--Union.  Bear guaranteed payment and they took their lost child (Douglas) back and allowed him to do a 9 months doctorate.  Now he is Dr. Douglas, if, that is, you accept the likes of Union as a decent source to a doctorate, many won't.  

So you have the two choices regarding MIGS.
1-They were fools.
2-They knew and tried to make use of a toliet.   MIGS  

They will lie and mislead anytime it is to their benefit.  That is why Summit was good one year (1995) and all but useless the next (1996). Good or bad, it just depends on what their needs are, not what the school really is.  The truth is $$$$$$ is their first and last love, along with what they see in the mirror.
James
A.S., B.S., M.B.A.
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Has anyone seen or heard anything of AC lately? I do know that last year the Governor of Oregon was inundated with letters of complaint about AC and his lack of research skills - and about his infamous list.
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Contreras' life style and choices are those guaranteed to lead to unhappiness and challenges.  I expect the anger we see and the lack of common sense are caused by his lack of a normal life. A wife and children may not be perfection but it's a hell of a lot better world to be part of, not, what he and they do.  When you see people with his problems in positions of even modest power and choice you will always see a deviation from normal behavior and actions that challenge common sense.  We are lucky that he is no worse than he is. He comes from a lifestyle that is sick and repulsive. But we can know this.  His actions bring more problems to him than us.  We can walk away from any contact with him, but he on the other hand must look into the mirror and see a sexual deviant with no hope of a normal life, and he will see this every day for his whole life.  Thank God we are not in his shoes. Let him have his petty little whines and public fits, the poor boob has no life and really no one gives a damn what he thinks. He is a fringe player both in life and DL.
James
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Randall Flagg Wrote:Contreras' life style and choices are those guaranteed to lead to unhappiness and challenges.  I expect the anger we see and the lack of common sense are caused by his lack of a normal life. A wife and children may not be perfection but it's a hell of a lot better world to be part of, not, what he and they do.  When you see people with his problems in positions of even modest power and choice you will always see a deviation from normal behavior and actions that challenge common sense.  We are lucky that he is no worse than he is. He comes from a lifestyle that is sick and repulsive. But we can know this.  His actions bring more problems to him than us.  We can walk away from any contact with him, but he on the other hand must look into the mirror and see a sexual deviant with no hope of a normal life, and he will see this every day for his whole life.  Thank God we are not in his shoes. Let him have his petty little whines and public fits, the poor boob has no life and really no one gives a damn what he thinks. He is a fringe player both in life and DL.

This post is as true now as when it was originally made 2 years ago. Contreras is a disgraced public servant and an unhappy fag angry at the world.
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