Chip White / opinions minus facts.
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"Accreditation is, by most accounts, very important...in the US, *many employers won't recognize unaccredited degrees, and if you decide to pursue an accredited advanced degree, you *may find that graduate schools will be unwilling to accept unaccredited work."
--Chip White--AED--Dec. 1, 1998  

Now John Bear was telling us in 1997 that unaccredited schools were well accepted by the private business world. The Douglas research paper (2003) showed that 96% of Human Resource Managers viewed state approved schools as positive or better. Only 2% of them rejected them outright.  This statement by Chip White, according to John Bear and Rich Douglas, is wrong. Was Chip lying or just ignorant, or both? who knows, but he was wrong, and provably so.

First of all the word 'may' means nothing. You may find gold or you may not.  But it is apparent that Chip wanted to say unaccredited schools are all but useless and since he had no proof of anything he had to hint and indicate without offering proof.  In fact from 5-10% of accredited schools have processes in place to accept degrees /credits from unaccredited schools.

This is typical of the non-proof used by the gang for years. They say it as negative as possible and fail to quote any proof whatsoever. Lies are a dime a dozen and even cheaper at DI.

By the way Chip doesn't have any degrees, accredited or unaccredited, so he doesn't know what anyone might accept.  He never had a degree of any kind to present to any schools or businesses. He talks about what he has never experienced.  

Where are the research studies, where is the proof of what they say.

Just remember, screaming and hollering doesn't make their unsupported 'Opinions' right, it just makes them LOUD.

There is good usage to unaccredited degrees. Is it the same as from  the better accredited schools? no, but it doesn't have to be in order to be useful and of value.  

Hell, it was never rocket science to know that a degree from CCU or Pacific Western wouldn't be the same as one from the University of Texas or Michigan.  Bear sold the hell out of the unaccredited schools because he wanted our money. He now tells it the other way and for the same reasons, our money.

Summit University would not have and will not substitute for a degree from Harvard, but, it is a lot better than no degree and it is of usable value to MANY people.  Was Summit one of the 100 good schools in the US? of course not, nor is it the lump of coal Bear now whines about. These people will sell you one thing today and another tomorrow. They neither know nor care what you really need or want.  You are the customer (period). They want your money, and they will sell you degrees (from their schools) cancer cures, coffee enemas, books, pornography, you name.  If they can get it they would sell it to you. Now they may well laugh at you for buying what they sell, but not until your check is safely in their bank account.
James
A.S., B.S., M.B.A.
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Randall Flagg Wrote:"Accreditation is, by most accounts, very important...in the US, *many employers won't recognize unaccredited degrees, and if you decide to pursue an accredited advanced degree, you *may find that graduate schools will be unwilling to accept unaccredited work."
--Chip White--AED--Dec. 1, 1998  

Now John Bear was telling us in 1997 that unaccredited schools were well accepted by the private business world. The Douglas research paper (2003) showed that 96% of Human Resource Managers viewed state approved schools as positive or better. Only 2% of them rejected them outright.  This statement by Chip White, according to John Bear and Rich Douglas, is wrong. Was Chip lying or just ignorant, or both? who knows, but he was wrong, and provably so.

First of all the word 'may' means nothing. You may find gold or you may not.  But it is apparent that Chip wanted to say unaccredited schools are all but useless and since he had no proof of anything he had to hint and indicate without offering proof.  In fact from 5-10% of accredited schools have processes in place to accept degrees /credits from unaccredited schools.

This is typical of the non-proof used by the gang for years. They say it as negative as possible and fail to quote any proof whatsoever. Lies are a dime a dozen and even cheaper at DI.

By the way Chip doesn't have any degrees, accredited or unaccredited, so he doesn't know what anyone might accept.  He never had a degree of any kind to present to any schools or businesses. He talks about what he has never experienced.  

Where are the research studies, where is the proof of what they say.

Just remember, screaming and hollering doesn't make their unsupported 'Opinions' right, it just makes them LOUD.

There is good usage to unaccredited degrees. Is it the same as from  the better accredited schools? no, but it doesn't have to be in order to be useful and of value.  

Hell, it was never rocket science to know that a degree from CCU or Pacific Western wouldn't be the same as one from the University of Texas or Michigan.  Bear sold the hell out of the unaccredited schools because he wanted our money. He now tells it the other way and for the same reasons, our money.

Summit University would not have and will not substitute for a degree from Harvard, but, it is a lot better than no degree and it is of usable value to MANY people.  Was Summit one of the 100 good schools in the US? of course not, nor is it the lump of coal Bear now whines about. These people will sell you one thing today and another tomorrow. They neither know nor care what you really need or want.  You are the customer (period). They want your money, and they will sell you degrees (from their schools) cancer cures, coffee enemas, books, pornography, you name.  If they can get it they would sell it to you. Now they may well laugh at you for buying what they sell, but not until your check is safely in their bank account.

John Bear is a friend to the side that is about to win. He flip flops from side to side according to where the money is. He ahs always been that way and has shown his ignorance more than once.

Bear reviewed my resume when he had his degree consulting busines and sent me to his wife at CPU, but failed to tell me he had any financial insterest in CPU. Mistake, oversight, no, just a liar by omitting all facts. He's a big believer in not answering a question unless its asked. Then he will mold his response based on trying to take apart the question. He's the Bill Clinton of DE.
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I once worked for a man like Bear, during my high school years (part-time work).  The guy had found God, well, sort of.  He sold used cars and I helped wash and clean them up. He tried to avoid answering the questions the people would ask. It was hilarious to watch customers trying to pin him down, and him trying to not out and out lie.
Does it use oil? I haven't checked it lately.
Is the transmission good? It seems to run pretty good for an old car.
Is this the real millage? It's a low mileage car.
Is the engine in good shape? I drove it to town and back just yesterday.

He would answer by not answering what they asked. You could ask him what time of day it was and he would tell you about what kind of watch he had. The guy was really a lying thief who even tried to cheat me. He bought an old car for $500, I was there when he bought it.  A few weeks later I was interested and asked him what he would take for the car. He told me he had about a thousand dollars in it and being as it was me I could have it for $1500. Needless to say I passed on this wonderful deal.

Ask Bear if it's raining and he will tell you about the value of rain and by the way.....Want to buy an umbrella? There is a shop just down the corner that sells wonderful umbrellas. (His wife runs the shop....of course).

When you buy from Honest John's near-college experience degrees or from Honest Ed's Fine used Cars, guess what? you will get the inevitable royal screwing, but look at the bright side. Old Ed and John have a fine retirement based on having sold you what best suited their needs and NOT yours.

What kind of man sells you advice that leads you to HIS business?  John Bear--that's who. Now if that ain't being slick as snot I don't know what is. You got to admire a man who can sell you a tapeworm for weight loss and then sell you the cure for tapeworms.
James
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#4
And now, with your milled degree you have moved up to guinea pigs, yes?
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[quote=Hogwasher]
And now, with your milled degree you have moved up to guinea pigs, yes?

Answer: AS hogwasher, I'll let you deal with them. It's more, your type of boondoggle. If you have problems Rich, check with Union, they might help.
James
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#6
Hogwasher Wrote:
Randall Flagg Wrote:I once worked for a hamster, during my high school years (part-time work).  The rodent thought it was a gerbil, well, sort of. I helped wash his fur. He tried to avoid answering the questions the people would ask. It was hilarious to watch customers trying to pin him down, and him trying to keep from getting squashed.

And now, with your milled degree you have moved up to guinea pigs, yes?

By the way, of course, I didn't say any of the above things. Hogwasher changed my post, when he quoted me, and made it look like my comments. They never tire of name-calling and lies.
James
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