For-Profits Under Assault
#11
Thumbs up to John Kline of Minnesota for trying to restore focus on what is important.

The current socialist fad is to create ethereal hurdles for for-profits to jump over as punishment for making money and not giving it all to the government.

Instead Kline seeks to promote transparency for all cartel members by making both for-profits and non-profits disclose their graduation rates, costs, and graduates’ debt burdens to all applicants.

Quote:Representative Kline Eyes Way to Stop Rule Restricting For-Profit Colleges

By John Lauerman - Dec 16, 2010 9:01 PM PT

John Kline, the incoming leader of the House of Representatives education committee, said he is considering measures to block an Obama administration plan to tighten for-profit colleges’ access to student aid.

The Department of Education has proposed tying for-profit colleges’ eligibility for U.S. student aid to graduates’ incomes and loan repayment rates. In September, after receiving more than 90,000 comments, the department delayed making public the final rule until early next year.

Kline, a Minnesota Republican who will become chairman of the education committee in January, said he would rather that nonprofit and for-profit colleges be required to disclose graduation rates, costs, and graduates’ debt burdens to all applicants. The so-called gainful employment rule is scheduled to go into effect in 2012, and Kline said he has been looking at ways of “stopping” it.

“At the very least, you need to push this thing back,” he said yesterday during an interview with reporters in his office. The rule has been getting “an enormous amount of pushback and getting it in a bipartisan way.”

Democratic Representatives Alcee Hastings of Florida and Donald Payne and Robert Andrews of New Jersey have voiced opposition to the gainful employment proposal, Kline said. At least 80 members of Congress have said they oppose the rule. ‘

Broad Opposition

“You’ve got what I’d think of as a pretty broad spectrum,” Kline said.

Senator Tom Harkin, an Iowa Democrat and chairman of the Senate education committee, state prosecutors in Kentucky and Florida, and the U.S. Government Accountability Office have been investigating the education companies’ recruitment practices and use of government funds. Phoenix-based Apollo Group Inc., the biggest U.S. for-profit college and operator of the University of Phoenix, gained 45 cents, or 1.2 percent yesterday in Nasdaq Stock Market composite trading, and has lost 37 percent this year. An index of 13 for-profit colleges gained less than 1 percent yesterday.

The rule is intended to measure the quality of for-profit colleges’ by tracking former students’ incomes and ability to repay loans. Schools that fail to hit benchmarks risk losing eligibility for student financial aid that can account for up to 90 percent of revenue at for-profit colleges. Those measures don’t provide an accurate picture of how well the colleges educate their students, Kline said.

“I’d say you’re measuring the wrong thing here,” he said.

For-profit colleges are an important part of the educational system, because they can quickly develop programs to prepare students for expanding job opportunities, Kline said. The regulation needlessly hinders an industry that’s working well, he said.

The rule may be blocked by including language in a spending bill that would prevent the department from implementing it, Kline said. He said he would prefer to work with Secretary of Education Arne Duncan soften or eliminate the proposal.
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#12
More lies about for-profits. What "journalism" school did this dimwit Sgobbo attend? We don't make 'em up...but the Village Voice does!

Quote:Freelance writer Rob Sgobbo's article "For-Profit Blues" was removed from the website after the Voice learned that Sgobbo had invented a character, "Tamicka Bourges," who claimed she had amassed a large debt at Berkeley College without obtaining a degree.

We first learned that there might be a problem when Berkeley College denied that one of its spokespersons, Kelly Meisberger, had spoken to Sgobbo. Berkeley later added that it had no record of Bourges as a student. At about the same time, the GAO called to inform us that there was no spokesperson there named "Matt Fraser," whom the story quoted.

The Voice apologizes sincerely to Berkeley College and the GAO that this false material appeared in our education supplement.

Tony Ortega
Editor
The Village Voice
http://www.villagevoice.com/2011-01-05/n...fit-blues/
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(01-11-2011, 09:02 AM)WilliamW Wrote: What "journalism" school did this dimwit Sgobbo attend?

Google is your friend. From the Huffington Post:

Quote:Rob Sgobbo is an education reporter based in New York City. He has written for the New York Daily News, The Village Voice and the Norwood News on issues ranging from charter schools to the quality of public school lunches.

Rob currently attends [regionally accredited] Columbia University's Graduate School of Journalism where he is reporting on the New York City Department of Education's practice of closing schools for poor performance. Prior to studying at Columbia, Rob taught for two years in a South Bronx elementary school through Teach for America. In 2009, Rob graduated from [regionally accredited] Pace University with a masters degree in education, and is a 2007 graduate of [regionally accredited] Haverford College, where he holds his bachelors degree in political science. Rob is originally from Princeton, New Jersey.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rob-sgobbo

How many times did you say to yourself "ah, that explains it" when reading that bio?

Quote:Haverford College

...The college was founded in 1833 by area members of the Orthodox Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) to ensure an education grounded in Quaker values for young Quaker men. Although the college no longer has a formal religious affiliation, the Quaker philosophy still influences campus life.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haverford_College

Too bad Richard Kimble quit or he might have some interesting observations about Sgobbo's Quakkker ethics.
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(01-11-2011, 11:32 AM)Dickie Billericay Wrote: Too bad Richard Kimble quit or he might have some interesting observations about Sgobbo's Quakkker ethics.

As soon as he gets some more talking points from NPR and MoveOn.org he might have something to say.
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(10-28-2010, 02:50 PM)Dickie Billericay Wrote:
Quote:“My hope is other proprietary schools take action if this is going on elsewhere,” Waldman said. “There is no place in this country for the government schools to operate in such a manner to harm private businesses.”

The higher ed cartel must be feeling pretty smug about having eradicated all the unaccredited religious and startup schools ("diploma mills"), and now are turning their attention to for-profits ("predatory sleazebags").  

Virtual Bison has it right; who are they coming for next, and who will be left to speak up?  

What happens when the government decides that the non-profits ("unfair, greedy, evil, selfish, cruel") don't really need all those billion dollar endowments quite as much as the government does?  

Do great minds think alike or are people actually reading the stuff on this board?

Quote:'They Came for the For-Profits'
February 6, 2013 - 3:00am
By Libby A. Nelson

WASHINGTON -- In remarks to the National Association of Independent Colleges and Universities Tuesday, a Republican Congresswoman used a Holocaust reference to suggest that private college leaders should have stood up to the Obama administration's regulation of for-profit colleges.

In criticizing the private college presidents, Representative Virginia Foxx, the North Carolina Republican who leads the subcommittee on higher education, adapted the famous statement from the German theologian Martin Niemöller on Germans who ignored Nazi persecution. ("First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out because I was not a communist.")

"'They came for the for-profits, and I didn't speak up...'" Foxx said. "Nobody really spoke up like they should have."

At a meeting with staff from Congress and the Education Department on Monday, private college presidents at the meeting said they wished the federal government had done more to regulate for-profit colleges, pointing to higher default rates among graduates and dropouts of those institutions. The administration's "gainful employment" rule, currently in legal limbo, would have cut federal money to vocational programs with low debt repayment rates or high debt-to-income ratios among graduates.

Many of the discussions of federal policy at the annual meeting were about fears that the Education Department and Congress would indeed apply their regulatory approach to for-profit colleges to all of higher education, including private nonprofit colleges -- which NAICU would strongly oppose. The application of "gainful employment" to all institutions is a common fear, especially after President Obama said in his State of the Union last January that he would seek to use some financial aid programs to reward colleges that offer "good value" and punish those that don't.

"First they came" has been adapted for a wide range of political protests, more commonly -- at least during the Obama administration -- among conservatives. (In the past few months, it's been used on conservative blogs and websites to protest higher tax rates, the contraception insurance mandate for religious institutions, and the bankruptcy of Hostess, the company that manufactures Twinkies). Asked if the Congresswoman meant to imply that the gainful employment regulation was comparable to the Holocaust, Foxx's spokeswoman, Ericka Perryman, said, "Of course not."

Foxx, a former community college president who has chaired the Education and the Workforce's Subcommittee on Higher Education and Workforce Training since 2011, has created controversy with some of her statements in the past. At Tuesday's event, she told the private college presidents that her new position as vice chair of the House Committee on Rules usually would have meant she would need to resign as chair of the higher education subcommittee, but that the House changed that requirement for her because she was the only House Republican with higher education experience.
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