running DE/DL web searches, it is the second "book", phone-directory style of DE/DL institution i find for sale (NOT Bear's guide ).
Again, each book pimping a different row of "school", now promising "accredited degrees FAST & EASY with tons of PLAR.
Again, the same names as sponsors: Capella university, university of Phoenix...
This "guide" business must sell well.
"This report lists the name, last known address, and details of the programs offered. Dealing with such places is potentially dangerous, and it is most emphatically not recommended. The report is provided as a reference source for those involved in evaluating others' credentials; for those who are simply curious; AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE WILLING TO TAKE LARGER RISKS.
The final decision, of course, must be your own. But before dealing with any of the 'Schools' described here, you may wish to give serious thought to acquiring a degree from a bible school instead. They are usually just as decorative, equally valueless, generally much less expensive, and much more likely to be legal.
Why I Provide This Information:
(2) It offers the reader who chooses to ignore my warnings a consumer's guide to Fake Degrees. Why spend $3,000 for a fake doctorate when you can get one that is just as useless for $10.
A final warning: diploma mills move around a great deal, and the nature of their offerings regularly changes. If you must deal with one, don't send any money until you have verified they are still in business, and ready to sell you what you wish.
From page 18:
The present author (one of the original group) assisted in selling the L.I.A.R. business to a gentleman in Holland, who carries it on for personal gain. I have been unable to stop him from using my name on the diplomas. He says he will send me $30 for each one he sells-money I will Gladly Accept and Donate to Good Charities.
From page 20:
Millard Fillmore Institute
But people will find a way to misuse anything. When a high official of a large fundamental Christian Bible School, Freedom University, was found to be claiming his Doctorate from the Millard Fillmore Institute, it seemed time to shut its fictitious gates, Perhaps Forever."
--John Bear, Ph.D., Bonus Report: Diploma Mills of the World, 1982, California, Mendocino Book Company
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Now this report was just what the world needed, a listing of degree mills and the contact information. You will notice Bear makes no morality statements, just that it might be dangerous and that it was up to you if you wanted to use his list AND RISK IT.
John has gleefully pointed out the magazines and newspapers who provide contact information to schools John now 'Deems questionable'. And yet, John did it first, best, and also for profit. He once again says do as I say, not as I have done.
Of course I'm sure everyone noticed he gladly took the payments from the new owner of "L.I.A.R." It doesn't matter how he used the money (we don't really know if he gave one dime to charities) paid for the use of his name, the point is he took it. And why the hell would someone sell a degree mill instead of just closing it down, hint, he wanted the MONEY.
As many of us have said over and over. Bear didn't give a damn what you did it was up to you. He provided the contact information to Everything, including the degree mills. This new found morality came about in 1998 with his discovery that accredited schools would pay him well. Until about 1998 Bear could care less which of his listed schools you used.
Can you imagine the millions paid to Bear by Heriot-Watt. I'm told by one man that it was more than 6.4 million well before he sold out, and it probably was 10 million or more by the end of his involvement with HW. I wonder if the students who made Bear rich think (today) that his advice was unbiased and in their best interest? Or, was his advice in his best interest?
"Incidently, in an effort to calm Dr. Welker down, I did offer to print a write up of his school, as HE wrote it, assuming, of course, that I agreed with it. He supplied me with one a couple of days ago; I had no problem with it, so it will be included 'Precisely' as HE wrote it."
--John Bear--AED--Feb. 5, 1995
Welker was telling how many millions of dollars Bear was making from Heriot Watt because of the 8000 students he (Bear) had recruited, when John saw the light and decided to make peace by allowing Welker to do his own piece in the Bear/Welker guide. It would seem, to shut Welker up, Bear cut a deal. Welker was claiming that Bear was out to damage the cheaper schools (his competition) so that he could gather an unfair advantage. Welker called him on it and prevailed. And the result, we get the Bear--Welker Guide. How Sweet!!
John Bear now likes to say he never recommended unaccredited schools to anyone. He now claims to have said that "If you are absolutely sure an unaccredited school will meet your present and future needs it might be an ok choice." He tells us (today) that those unaccredited degrees were from merely dreadful schools or worse. He says that unaccredited schools are problematic and too light. In other words he always warned people to be very careful and that these degrees very rarely worked, but that's not what he said, not at all. And today he tells us they were really pretty bad. But what did he say back then? Did he say they were to be used rarely and carefully?
What did he really say. Let's take a look.
1 "Many very good schools (or departments within schools) are not accredited."
2 "It is important to remember that lack of accreditation need not mean that a school is either inferior or illegal."
3 "There are some legitimate and useful unaccredited schools."
4 "Some OUTSTANDING nontraditional schools are run from relatively small suites and offices."
5 "A few sincere, very low-budget schools have even operated without a telephone for a while."
6 "Another unaccredited university has letters from Harvard, Yale, and Princeton, among others, indicating a willingness to consider their students for admission to graduate school."
7 "Many job descriptions specify that a certain degree is required, or that additional salary will be paid, if a certain degree is held. In MANY of these situations, a good unaccredited degree will suffice."
8 "Many nontraditional degrees are good for MOST people in MOST situations."
9 "A nonresident Doctorate, earned through a combination of life-experience credit and new work, from one of the better unaccredited state-licensed universities may be of minimal value in getting a faculty position at Harvard. But such degrees have PROVED USEFUL in MANY cases for advancement in business, government, and industry, not to mention doing WONDERS for self-image and gaining respect of others."
10 "It remains the case that many, many folks' needs can be filled by degrees from the more reputable unaccredited schools."
"I have supported the concept of unaccredited degrees vigorously for 21 years. I have written untold hundreds, probably thousands of letters, in support of people who have problems with well earned but unaccredited degrees from DOZENS of schools."
--John Bear--AED--Feb. 1, 1995
He told us they worked and were decent to good choices for over two decades. He called Kennedy Western-Summit University-Adam Smith University.....etc. good schools. We listened, we thought him an honest man, we thought him intelligent, we thought he knew what he was talking about, we bought what he was selling. The lesson here.
Just because a used car salesman tells you it is a good car doesn't make it so. He can, as has John Bear, sing a new song as soon as it is to his benefit. Then CPU is wonderful, now, it's Excelsior--it's the next thing to Heaven. A school that you can get wonderful degrees in only 3-6 months. Think a professor at Harvard agrees with Bear? not likely. Think Bear or his wife would have used Excelsior? again, not likely. Will Bear still say Excelsior or TESC are just as accredited as Ohio State University in ten years? I doubt it.
Don't depend on the used car salesman for honesty and integrity and advice on what to buy. He is selling something and wants your money. He will sell you any car on the lot. The money is all the same to him.
Here dr. Bear lectures in the ominous article "dr. John Bear: keeping it ethical".
With great candor, John Bear explains:
Quote:It struck me that it was strange that Bob Hope could just buy his degree. Coincidentally, we kept encyclopedia volumes in the bathroom for general reading. That day I happened to open the F volume to Millard Fillmore, the 13th President of the United States. Fillmore was morally opposed to honorary doctorates. As a lark, we created the Millard Fillmore Institute to send out fake diplomas to people we liked, such as writers or singers or others. Johnny Carson used to do a Millard Fillmore shtick on Fillmore's birthday. He found our fake diplomas, and displayed them on national TV. Soon, we received hundreds of requests for these novelty diplomas. Soon thereafter, we heard from several attorneys general who indicated that there were people who were passing our diplomas off as legitimate. We immediately stopped the Millard Fillmore Institute,but my purpose in life had been set.
but the journalist doesn't laugh in his face; he doesn't invoke the thunder of moral justice upon dr. John Bear; he doesn't phone employers, the FBI or INTERPOL.
Instead, John Bear can freely be interviewed as moral authority on "keeping things ethical", while disclosing one of the many questionable "schools" (=degree mills in his later opinion, or jokes ) he masterminded.
Now it's really THAT easy: to come clean after operating (or while operating ) a degree mill, one might just claim it was a "lark", a "joke"...
What a JOKE!
From the BONUS (or was that bogus) JB Report on "DIPLOMA MILLS OF THE WORLD", published in 1984:
LONDON INSTITUTE OF APPLIED RESEARCH
Bureau for Degree Promotion, Laan van Meerdervoort 1348-Z, 2555 CH Den Haag, Netherlands.
An impressive looking fake certificate awarding the honorary Doctorate of L.I.A.R., which has been officially stamped in some manner by the Dutch government, for $100. Here is the odd history of this endeavour, In 1973 a group of serious academics decided to start a serious alternative school in London. To raise money, they created s blatantly fictitious entity, L.I.A.R. solely to sell honorary Doctorates for $25, all proceeds to go to the legitimate school. L.I.A.R. upset a lot of people by doing openly what universities do secretly; exchanging a meaningless honorary credential for a donation. When plans for the serious school fell through, all the money was donated to scholarship funds in Europe, Africa and the US. I was one of the founders of L.I.A.R. which was traded, in 1974, to a man in Holland, for (would I be making this up?) 1,000 Ethiopian metal ear pickers. The Dutchman operated L.I.A.R. for profit, and added the fake degrees of Brownell University and the California Institute for Higher Learning.
Does anyone know the name of the 'serious alternative school', or whether such a proposal ever existed?
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Maybe, it’s just me, Jimmy, but isn’t it an inanity for a “medical professional” to publicly proffer a medical diagnosis concerning another individual?
Isn’t it an inanity for a “medical professional” to make a diagnosis without ever having examined the patient? Isn’t it even more inane to base this diagnosis on nothing more than allegations and hearsay concerning the "patient?"
Isn’t it an inanity for a “medical professional” to publicly discuss a medical diagnosis (whether accurate, or not) that has not been made public by the patient? Isn’t this even more inane if the individual is not a patient of the alleged medical professional?
Maybe, it’s just me, Jimmy, but I’m beginning to think that “inane” is simply too mild and kind of a term to employ in this situation.
When licensed mental health professionals at degreeinfo diagnosed Gus as nuts he went berserk threatening to have their licenses lifted. He still doesn't like it. Paranoid little bugger.
Here is a guy (Straittalk) who has a copy of Bears' Guide. He is saying positive things about Adam Smith University and quoting John Bear's positive statements in the guide. The gang is attacking Straittalk, Bear takes offense concerning the accurate quotations from his book, so he rips into Straittalk. It's a course of events we have seen many times. The gang bashes and Bear helps to knife one of his paying customers.
Straittalk has just said that he has seen nothing in the guide negative about ASU.
"Ok, Here's some. Adam Smith is run from a convenience address in Hawaii, by its owner who lives in New York. Formerly it used a mail service in Louisiana, until Louisiana laws toughened in 1994. Accreditation has been claimed from the dreadful World Association of Universities and Colleges, as well as several other unrecognized agencies. From my understanding of the new and tougher school law, I do not see how Adam Smith can be operating legally there, because of the requirement of having 25 full-time resident students in Hawaii. To the best of my knowledge, neither the credits nor the degrees of Adam Smith have ever been accepted by any University with proper (GAAP) accreditation. This is not new information; it is what I have believed and written for quite a few years."
--John Bear--AED--Feb. 2000
So John Says he knew about the:
Convenience Address
Mail Service in Louisiana
False Claims to Accreditation
Says he doesn't think it is legal
Little or no acceptance of its degrees?
Most pointedly he says he knew and wrote about it for "Quite" a few years.
Ok, then why did he list it as one of the good schools in America?
College Degrees by Mail-100 Good Schools that offer Bachelor's, Master's, Doctorates and Law Degrees by Home Study
By John Bear, Ph.D. -1995-page 58
Now this guy buys the Bear Guide, reads it, then quotes it and John Bear has a hissy fit. Why? one might ask. How is it so terrible to accurately quote an author, believe that the author was telling the truth, had great experience and knowledge, and would certainly be the kind of man who would stand by his statements.
Well, Straittalk, I guess you were wrong.
You cannot quote a man who does not believe in what he says or even bothers to be sure he is accurate. John was just selling the guide, he didn't know nor care if it was accurate. What Bear wrote in the guides and said at AED are not the same, not even close. One can only wonder how a man can look you in the eye and say, I DON'T BELIVE WHAT I wrote and you were wrong to quote me. It's all your fault.
Once again John blames the buyer for what he SOLD.
