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Posted by: ham - 03-07-2009, 01:57 AM - Forum: General Education Discussions
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http://www.lemonde.fr/politique/article/...23448.html
Prestigious French newspaper LE MONDE gives press to a hot controversy debating the degrees that President Sarkozy claims he was awarded in his official biography.
Political Science professor Alain Garrigou claims that Sarkozy, while attending IEP Paris, did NOT obtain the degree (equivalent to a M.A ), contrary to the President's official biography. Garrigou disclosed how Sarkozy "barely passed" his bar exam and also dug out formal evidence from the university's archives (shown in the article) to document how Sarkozy did satisfy some but not all requirements to be awarded the degree.
The university officially declares that Sarkozy obtained his degree meeting the requirements in 2 separate years, yet prof. Garrigou maintains that in order for Sarkozy to do that he ought to have obtained a very seldom awarded permission...which -according to the university- is not so rare an occurrence after all.
Whitewashed political crackpot or genuine, harassed student?
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| Are all unaccredited Universities Diploma Mills? |
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Posted by: Virtual Bison - 02-27-2009, 02:30 PM - Forum: Unaccredited vs. State-Approved vs. Accredited
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And if the answer is no, than how can you tell the difference?
I personally believe that there is a difference. It has to do with how much work, if any is required. A phony baloney college will not require any work whatsoever. Just send a check or give a credit card number and voila your diploma is in the mail. I even heard of some so-called schools which will provide your employer with transcripts and phony references.
Obviously, this is unethical and I would never a do business with any "institution" which does business that way.
What does piss me off is that so many bogus universities make the rest of the unaccredited institutions look bad.
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| Sean Rips Gollin, Gollin Starts Stalking |
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Posted by: Herbert Spencer - 02-25-2009, 07:23 PM - Forum: George Gollin
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Relative newbie Sean points out the obvious to Gollum. Gollum is irrelevant, tilting at windmills, devoted to self-aggrandizement, etc.
Gollum responds as usual, making personal insults, misstating the poster's point, asking for proof that the poster is who he says he is, repeating the retarded argument that he is somehow making the medical profession safe and ignoring that it is already illegal to practice medicine without appropriate licensing.
In short, the usual stupid, irrelevant garbage Gollum has been spewing for ages. When is this ridiculous turd going to join Janko in the hereafter?
http://www.degreediscussion.com/forums/v...9ce#p51767
Quote:Re: Preston license renewal DENIED by Alabama
by Sean on Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:20 am
I'm still new to this and only interested in finding a good DL program for myself.
And, after reading many of your posts here, I certainly respect you and am a fan.
But:
Don't you think that by this day and age most of these unaccredited mills you are chasing are weak and already on the run?
The "clever" mill operators smelled the dogs and heard the goose-steps years and years ago (late 90's at least) and have transformed into something else.
Shouldn't you be looking at what that "something else" might be? Isn't that where the real investigation is?
I know you get lots of newspaper and other media praise for what you do, and it's always nice to be viewed as the new "sheriff" and get the praise. But isn't it outdated and behind the times and actually helping those who adapted?
Think about Darwin...things adapt to survive.
So while you (and others) hunt the leftovers and get glory for it, you are actually benefiting those who adapted enough to escape your, and others, vision.
Just my opinion! I'm a scientist from Florida, not an expert.
Quote:No, I don't.
by g-gollin on Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:57 am
Sean wrote:
Don't you think that by this day and age most of these unaccredited mills you are chasing are weak and already on the run?
No. I expect that the number of illegitimate diplomas sold per year by businesses like Belford and Rochville is increasing.
Sean wrote:
The "clever" mill operators smelled the dogs and heard the goose-steps years and years ago (late 90's at least) and have transformed into something else.
I would not characterize the small number of enforcement actions for mail and wire fraud as carried out by those who "goose step." Look over the material describing St. Regis.
Sean wrote:
Shouldn't you be looking at what that "something else" might be?
You appear to be suggesting that legitimate postsecondary institutions (many of which hold recognized accreditation), and which are staffed by expert faculty with advanced degrees, are the "something else." That is just silly.
Sean wrote:
...you are actually benefiting those who adapted enough to escape...
No, we are trying to keep businesses that sell MD degrees (and other unearned credentials) to untrained paying customers from growing in number.
Sean wrote:
I'm a scientist from Florida...
What is it that you do, or have done, to make your self-identification as "a scientist" an accurate characterization? Would you be willing to describe this?
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