A degreeinfo thread:

http://www.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?t=24650

Note that Athabasca preferred distance degrees because they are a distance only school. The may very well have considered a Columbia Pacific degree superior to many accredited degrees. At the time Harvard indicated a willingness to accept a CPU degree for admissions. How disgraceful is that.

I'm sure there are a whole raft of pre-accreditation Union Institute degrees there. It took like 15 years to get accreditation. Are these ones okay?

I posted to this somewhat ridiculous article concerning ethics among anthropologists and their work for government or military.

I posted that I believed that anthropologists certainly should consider it unethical to work for a living. Note that normally anthropologists have no real world work so it would be not be unexpected that they would consider work unethical.

http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/02/19/anthro

My post was removed. It was not in any way vulgar or even critical. It was simply ironic. I guess they are looking for bobbleheads, not real discussion.

I move here the offtopic from other threads.

Quote:No real accounting has ever been done of all the deaths in WWII because the results could not be stomached politically.

Quote:The mountain of evidence has been building that Bacque's charge of the "missing million" supposedly perishing in the American (and French) POW camps in Germany and France is based on completely faulty interpretation of statistical data. There was never any serious disagreement that the German POWs were treated badly by the U.S. Army and suffered egregiously in these camps in the first weeks after the end of the war. That the chaos of the war's end would also produce potentially mismatches and errors in record keeping should surprise no one either.

Quote:But there was NO AMERICAN POLICY to starve them to death as Bacque asserts and NO COVER UP either after the war. No question about it, there were individual American camp guards who took revenge on German POWs based on their hatred of the Nazis.

Quote:The total death rate for POWs in World War II were as follows

Is this an example of the vaunted poetry penned by pervert Alan Contreras of the odious ODA?  Say it ain't so!  The politics seem about what you would expect from a socialist idiot, but even faggots get taught about predicate nominatives in school, don't they?

http://www.poetry.com/dotnet/P8751274/99...splay.aspx

Quote:

Why!
why are people in this country so e***
why do they want people to go to war to fight and kil
why dont they go fight and kill
why do they think they are morally superior
when its THEM that cheat on there wives,
when its THEM that lie to get rich
when its THEM that have no morals
why do men die when people lie
WHY!

Alan Contreras
Copyright ©2009  Alan Contreras

I would really prefer not discussing the legitimacy of WNU (or KWU as it was called). It seems that this is a lively topic of discussion all over the web. The other DL board so often quoted here seems to have a field day with this. There seem to be individuals there who built careers destroying WNU's reputation, as well as that of students and graduates.

Personally I could not give a dam about Paul Saltman or the administration of WNU. Maybe they are opportunistic individuals more concerned with making profits than with education. Maybe not.

What concerns me is that there are students and graduates who seem to be left in the lurch here. For instance, WNU says it will close its doors at the end of March and the current students need to finish by then.

Preston University, which is currently based in Alabama, has agreed to take in WNU's graduates and supply transcripts and provide other Alumni services. This leaves another question, what will happen with this school? Preston's website seems to be down for now. I spoke with some grads of WNU who had problems contacting them.

So whats the story here?

Now I am a KWU grad from a while back. I think it was not 100% bad but I really think that politics got mixed up and some individuals wanted to destroy WNU for their own profit. Thats why that who GAO "Investigation" took place and why Oregon made an attempt to force grads to not put their education on their resume.

Just saying hi.

Interesting stuff here.

http://www.oberlin.edu/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/o...ec=letters

Quote:The Oberlin Review
previous < Friday, December 12, 2008 > next  

SURF Thanks Campus for Wave of Support

To the Editors:

Oberlin Students for Reproductive Freedoms would like to thank everyone who attended our fundraiser, Work It For Women!, on Friday, Dec. 5 at the 'Sco. With your contributions, we raised over $2300, about a thousand dollars more than last year. This money will go to an abortion access fund at Preterm, an abortion clinic in Cleveland, to help women with the costs associated with abortion. Many women struggle to finance their abortions; anti-choice legislation often targets low-income women disproportionately. The Hyde Amendment prohibits the use of federal funds to finance abortion, and many health insurance policies do not cover the cost of an abortion. There are many expenses associated with abortion other than the cost of the medical procedure itself, including the cost of taking a day or two off work, childcare during the procedure, overnight stays and transportation. Transportation and overnight stays are major issues for Ohio women. In 2005, 90 percent of Ohio counties had no abortion provider, and 51 percent of Ohio women lived in these counties. Of U.S. women obtaining abortions in 2005, non-hospital providers estimate that 25 perccent traveled at least 50 miles, and 8 percent traveled more than 100 miles (guttmacher.org). Abortion-access funds help to facilitate affordable access to reproductive health services regardless of socioeconomic status.

We would like to thank our co-sponsors: the Oberlin ACLU, Affirming Choice Through Spirituality (ACTS), the Oberlin College Democrats and HIV Peer Testers. We'd also like to express our gratitude to the 'Sco staff, everyone who works in Wilder 111, Concert Sound, Like Bells, the Sauce, the David Bowie Cover Band and DJ Beat.

Finally, we were thrilled to see that there is such strong support among Oberlin students for a woman's right to choose. We urge everyone to stay informed and get active in choice issues. If you are interested in participating in Students United for Reproductive Freedoms, please send an email to oberlinsurf@gmail.com.


-Cordelia Loots-Gollin
-Corinne Streicher
Co-Chairs, Oberlin SURF  

The school that has the LEAST respected doctoral graduates decided they weren't the problem, DETC schools were.

Thread fron Gooseville:

http://www.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?t=30158

This is the same school that accepted unaccredited degrees from a school founded by the same owner, SCUPS.  SCUPS wasn't only unaccredited, it failed to get national accreditation.  This is the same school that is on a short accreditation renewal because the NCA thinks it sucks.

This is the same school that had people at degreeinfo quitting because they thought doctoral level courses should be difficult.  This is the same school with some students and graduates posting who seem challenged in the area of literacy.  This is a joke.

If they are trying to convince the NCA that this is tightening up and they should otherwise get a free ride on accreditation renewal - wrong.  The regional accreditors love national accreditors.  I think they would prefer the GRE or GMAT as a selection procedure.

One thing to keep in mind is that if Northcentral fails in its accreditation renewal many DETC schools will hold their nose and accept the credits.


Correction - it's on Tailpipeville. Since Janko died there are no posts at Gooseville.

George is busy creating threads and continuously replying to them. eg

http://www.degreediscussion.com/forums/v...f=5&t=6546

It must be terrible to be so passionate about a cause no-one else is interested in. Yes there are degreemills out there, always have been, always will be. Yaaaaawwn!!!!!

There will always be foot fungus and reading about it is about equally interesting. Perhaps George should revisit attacks on legitimate schools, then he might have debate, just not at DD.

http://d1586.u21.iamtechassist.com/files...chools.pdf

Quote:KMI Media Group and Military Advanced Education are pleased to present the 2008 Top Military-Friendly Colleges and Universities Honorees. These schools were selected by an independent panel of judges from the fields of both education and the military. Their selections are based on each institution’s favorable policies toward our men and women in uniform.

We invited over 2000 colleges and universities to participate in this year’s honors. This year’s response exceeded our expectations and is indicative of the attention being paid to our men and women in uniform by America’s institutions of higher learning. Due to the extensive number of returned submissions, the decision was made to double the number of schools that will be honored in 2008 from 30 to 60.

As a further tribute to those schools whose military-friendly policies set the gold standard for this honor, the judges have singled out Military Advanced Education’s 2008 Top 20 Schools for further distinction. We experienced several ties for this honor and, consequently, you will find 22 schools listed in the Top 20 Schools group.

We would like it to be known that all 60 schools selected for the 2008 Honor Roll scored very high or they would not have been selected. In fact, the difference between the Top 20 Schools and the other schools selected is equivalent to the numerical difference between an A+ and an A-, to use an educational analogy. In other words, all 60 schools scored very high or they would not have been selected.

All of this year’s honorees have been listed alphabetically.

AMERICAN MILITARY UNIVERSITY
10110 Battleview Parkway, Suite 200
Manassas, Virginia 20109
American Military University continues to serve and attract military students with our unique mission-related degree programs, affordable tuition, undergraduate book grant, monthly class starts, flexible withdrawal and extension policies, and a staff that understands the military community. Approximately 34,000 active duty, Guard, Reserve and veterans are enrolled in 73 undergraduate and graduate degree programs, which reflects over a 40 percent growth in students since last year’s submission. This year, we gained entry into the SOCOAST, SOCMAR and SOCNAV degree networks, Navy’s Distance Learning Partnership (NCPDLP) and Marine Corps Academic Explorer Program to supplement our participation in AU-ABC and the GoArmyEd portals.

AMERICAN SENTINEL UNIVERSITY
2260 South Xanadu Way
Aurora, Colorado 80014
American Sentinel University provides leading-edge, business, technology, criminal justice and health care degrees, plus significant military benefits to the extended military community. Military financial and assistance benefits are available to all servicemembers, veterans, auxiliary, and spouses. Flexible, asynchronous online course presentation works well for members whether deployed to remote locations; at home after work and family needs are met; or for spouses while kids are at school. Diverse degree and certification programs meet needs of both active members and their services, meet spouses’ needs for transferable skills, and meet veterans’ needs in their civilian afterlife.

CAPELLA UNIVERSITY
225 South 6th Street, 9th Floor
Minneapolis, Minnesota 55402
At Capella University, we strive to provide high-quality educational opportunities to veterans, military servicemembers and their families. We provide a tuition discount to our military, their spouses and veterans. We accept transfer credit from all branches of the military and have forged partnerships with several senior service schools. We offer a flexible military leave of absence policy that allows our military learners to pursue their educational goals despite their service obligations. Our armed forces and veterans support team is available to provide resources and support for learners using Tuition Assistance, GoArmyEd, and state and federal veterans programs and benefits.

CENTRAL TEXAS COLLEGE
P.O. Box 1800
Killeen, Texas 76540-1800
Central Texas College has served active and retired military and family members for more than 40 years. CTC offers associate degrees and certificates designed for the military student, face-to-face and distance learning options, and maximum credit for military education and training.
CTC offers on-site student support through campuses in Texas, the continental U.S., in the Pacific-Far East and Europe, and on Navy ships at sea. Online mentors and counselors help distance learners with the full range of student services, while CTC’s tech support staff helps distant learners resolve technical problems.

COASTLINE COMMUNITY COLLEGE
Fountain Valley, California 92708
Founded in 1975 as a college without walls and dedicated to distance learning, Coastline College has produced multiple Emmy award-winning telecourses and hundreds of internet, CD-ROM and PDA courses. This college began specifically serving the military in the early 1980s and graduated over 1,500 military graduates in 2008, from every branch of service and throughout the world. Fourty-nine percent of all associate degrees awarded in the Navy in 2008 were from Coastline. They are a regionally accredited college based out of California. The school offers multiple degrees and awards up to 40 AARTS/SMART/CCAF/CLEP/DANTES credits toward a degree.

COLUMBIA COLLEGE
1001 Rogers Street
Columbia, Missouri 65216
Accredited and nationally recognized, Columbia College has four decades of expertise awarding nontraditional credit for military training and experience; accepting ACE recommendations for military training and CLEP, DANTES and ECE examinations; maintaining a liberal withdrawal policy for military-related circumstances; and accepting up to 60 hours of nontraditional credit toward our bachelor’s programs. Add our partnership in GoArmyEd, EArmyU, NCPACE and NCPDLP; availability at the home campus to Army, Naval and AF ROTC programs; offering of in-seat courses at 18 military installations; and national test center responsibilities on 13 military installations, and you’ll see how Columbia College earns the designation "military-friendly."

COLUMBIA SOUTHERN UNIVERSITY
25326 Canal Road
P.O. Box 3110
Orange Beach, Alabama 36561
One of the nation’s first completely online universities, Columbia Southern University serves more than 6,000 military servicemembers. Open enrollment, flexible courses and affordable tuition allow soldiers to achieve a quality education. Transfer credit is awarded for military training, professional experience and prior coursework. Up to 75 percent of undergraduate courses and 50 percent of graduate courses can be transferred. All servicemembers receive an application fee waiver. Immediate family receives the waiver and a 10 percent tuition discount. Scholarships are also available. Approved to offer DANTES, TA and VA benefits, CSU is also a member of GoArmyEd and Servicemembers Opportunity Colleges.

ECPI COLLEGE OF TECHNOLOGY
5555 Greenwich Road
Virginia Beach, Virginia 23462
ECPI College of Technology is a leading private college, providing quality education for over 40 years. Specializing in technology, business and health sciences education, ECPI is accredited by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools to award Bachelor of Science and Associate of Science degrees. With physical campuses in VA, NC and SC, and worldwide accessibility through its online campus, ECPI is nationally ranked #1 in number of A.S. degrees awarded in computer information science (Community College Week – 2007).  An SOC member college, ECPI is proud to participate with partnership programs such as AU-ABC, GoArmyEd and eArmyU, MCCCP, NCPACE and NCPDLP.

EXCELSIOR COLLEGE
7 Columbia Circle
Albany, New York 12203-5159
Excelsior College, a regionally accredited institution and CCME Institutional Award recipient for advancing the cause of military education, has served our military community for over 37 years. The Center for Military Education provides specialized services, and there are on-site military representatives at 50+ installations. Excelsior offers 40+ degree programs in business, CJ, health sciences, liberal arts, nursing and technology. Students maximize previously earned and transfer credits from military training, college courses and examinations. Excelsior College has been repeatedly top-ranked for transfer students by U.S. News & World Report. Excelsior College offers distance courses online/CD-ROM. Excelsior College Examinations are funded 100 percent through DANTES.

GRANTHAM UNIVERSITY
7200 NW 86th Street
Kansas City, Missouri 64153
For nearly 60 years, Grantham University has provided online educational opportunities to servicemembers and their families. We believe that every servicemember, veteran and member of a military family should have the opportunity to pursue a college degree. In honor of the men and women who serve in every branch of the United States armed forces, Grantham University offers scholarships, tuition discounts and grants for active duty, reserve, guard, veterans and military family members.

KAPLAN UNIVERSITY
6301 Kaplan University Avenue
Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33309
Kaplan’s military enhancements for 2008 Universal Degree Platform, launching December 3, 2008—providing expanded flexibility for the transfer of credit from military training or prior course work. Up to 50 percent reduced tuition rates allowing active duty/veterans to obtain their degree using only MBIB or TA benefits (November 2008); spousal discount also offered. Becoming a GoArmyEd school, beginning January 2009, eliminating need for Tuition Assistance reimbursements for students. Providing university information on the AEX and AI portals. Specially trained military financial aid, academic advisers and admissions advisers.

PARK UNIVERSITY COLLEGE FOR DISTANCE LEARNING
8700 NW River Park Drive
Parkville, Missouri 64152
The College for Distance Learning at Park University is well-known as a pioneer in nontraditional studies that offers advanced degree programs accessible through multiple and highly respected delivery modalities. The faculty and staff are dedicated to assisting its diverse and global student learners achieve their academic and career goals. Students at Park University greatly benefit from the various educational services available during their unique educational journeys.  Park University continues to set the benchmark for serving military personnel and other adult learners who are seeking innovative academic degree programs steeped in excellence.

SAN DIEGO CITY COLLEGE
1313 Park Boulevard
San Diego, California 92101
San Diego City College has provided technical training and education to the military for 31 years. In FY 2008 alone, our military enrollment was 67,925. We offer educational opportunities and benefits to servicemembers through traditional and distance learning methods. Our Website is available 24/7/365, and trained counselors are available by e-mail and telephone. We currently have partnership agreements with 63 California universities and eight other national universities that may lead to a bachelor’s and/or master’s degree. We give college credit for your military rating/MOS specific, job-oriented training and are a member of the Navy College Program’s Distance Learning Partnership.

SOUTHERN ILLINOIS UNIVERSITY CARBONDALE
Carbondale, Illinois 62901-6899
SIUC has a long and distinguished history of delivering off-campus educational services to special populations throughout the world. In 1949 SIUC delivered programs in metropolitan East St. Louis, which led to the establishment of SIU Edwardsville, Ill. In 1973, SIUC began offering Bachelor of Science programs for military personnel, dependents and DoD personnel at military bases and later at non-military sites. Our focus, throughout, has been superb quality to meet diverse populations, with unique delivery systems that are appropriate and achievable, that enrich the lives of our students and faculty, and contribute to the betterment of the services.

STATE UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK MARITIME COLLEGE
6 Pennyfield Avenue
Throggs Neck, New York 10465
SUNY Maritime is a member of the Senior Military Colleges, AMCUS and CCME. The college offers free tuition for National Guardsmen, Navy and Marine Corps Reservists who volunteer for N.Y. State defense forces. Maritime hosts the only NROTC battalion for the metropolitan NYC region. One of 18 colleges in America that provide education for the Navy Enlisted Nuclear Engineers Program, Maritime also has enlisted-to-officer programs for the Naval Service—the Navy’s Seaman-to-Admiral Program and the Marine Corps Education Completion Program. Graduates earn USCG and USNR commissions as well as USCG Licenses.

STRAYER UNIVERSITY
P.O. Box 1310
Newington, Virginia 22122
Strayer University is a proprietary institution of higher learning that offers undergraduate and graduate degree programs in business administration, accounting, information technology, education and public administration to more than 36,000 working adults at 60 campuses in 12 states including Washington, D.C., and worldwide via the Internet through Strayer University Online. Strayer University is an approved GoArmyEd, NCPDLP and AU/ABC institution. Our military scholarship supplements the military’s tuition assistance program and other educational resources to offer 100 percent tuition coverage for undergraduate tuition and a majority of graduate tuition. Military students receive a free application—a $50 savings.

THOMAS EDISON STATE COLLEGE
101 West State Street
Trenton, New Jersey 08608-1176
Throughout its history, Thomas Edison State College has served military personnel worldwide. TESC is a long-standing member of SOC, providing flexible educational opportunities to accommodate the challenges faced by our servicemembers. In addition to our online courses, we offer formats that do not require the use of Internet in order to serve those students with limited connectivity. We also recognize the difficulty in pursuing education while undergoing frequent transitions. In response, we accept direct transfer credits from regionally accredited institutions, military transcripts, certificates and licenses, CLEP, DSST, and Excelsior exams, accepting the ACE recommended credit for all of the above.

TUI UNIVERSITY
5665 Plaza Drive
Cypress, California 90630
TUI understands the unique challenges and needs of our armed services. We guarantee maximum transferability, and we are dedicated to helping you reach your educational goals through our online programs. TUI University is a proud educational partner in several programs involving the Navy, the Army, the Marine Corps, Coast Guard, the Army National Guard and the Reserve Components of all the services. TUI University offers many military service schools to degree programs such as Command and General Staff College, AU/ABC, etc. TUI University is accredited by the Western Association of Schools and Colleges (WASC).

UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND UNIVERSITY COLLEGE
3501 University Boulevard East
Adelphi, Maryland 20783
University of Maryland University College is proud to have served U.S. military personnel and their dependents for more than 60 years. Today, UMUC enrolls 60,000 active-duty servicemembers, reservists, family members and veterans at more than 20 locations in Maryland and the Washington, D.C., metropolitan area and in more than 20 countries and 150 locations worldwide. At UMUC, military students and their spouses qualify for in-state tuition rates no matter where they are stationed, and scholarships are available to servicemembers and family members alike. Thanks to UMUC’s comprehensive online student and support services, help is available 24/7 anywhere there’s Internet access.

THE UNIVERSITY OF OKLAHOMA
1700 Asp Avenue
Norman, Oklahoma 73072
Since 1942, the University of Oklahoma has partnered with DoD, to provide educational degree programs and opportunities for the military. Ranging from a Ph.D., seven master’s degrees, an online undergraduate degree, and a high school diploma, OU brings its faculty to military bases around the world. This unique program delivery has been internationally recognized for the seamlessness and transparency of delivering the true OU campus experience and degree to military servicemembers and their dependents. OU participates in the GoArmyEd program and the Navy PACE program. OU’s accommodation policy enables every enrolled military student to complete his or her education.

UNIVERSITY OF PHOENIX
3157 E. Elwood Street
Phoenix, Arizona 85034
A leader in delivering academic programs across the military community, University of Phoenix provides the flexibility to attend classes online or in a traditional setting worldwide. An extensive variety of rigorous, regionally and programmatically accredited degree programs, deliver a real-world education from associate through doctoral degrees. Our reputation for being a longtime military-friendly school is predicated on providing academic quality and outstanding service to our students. University of Phoenix is overwhelmingly the first choice of our nation’s veterans and recognized as a military spouse friendly school. Focused on program completion, our military division graduated over 7,200 students in FY 2008.

WESTERN GOVERNORS UNIVERSITY
4001 South 700 East, Suite 700
Salt Lake City, Utah 84107-2533
WGU’s unique accredited, online competency-based degrees have proved a great fit for active-duty, reserve, and National Guard military members and their spouses. We actively participate in Troops to Teachers and Spouses to Teachers programs (we offer supplemental scholarships in addition to the TTT and STT stipend) and recently introduced WGUfunded Spouses to Graduates scholarships, which can be used for all four disciplines—teaching, business, IT and health care. WGU has awarded over 150 scholarships to military spouses. In addition, WGU offers an M.B.A. in strategic leadership for graduates of the Air Force’s Air War College Residence Program or Non-Residence Program.