Relative newbie Sean points out the obvious to Gollum.  Gollum is irrelevant, tilting at windmills, devoted to self-aggrandizement, etc.

Gollum responds as usual, making personal insults, misstating the poster's point, asking for proof that the poster is who he says he is, repeating the retarded argument that he is somehow making the medical profession safe and ignoring that it is already illegal to practice medicine without appropriate licensing.  

In short, the usual stupid, irrelevant garbage Gollum has been spewing for ages.  When is this ridiculous turd going to join Janko in the hereafter?

http://www.degreediscussion.com/forums/v...9ce#p51767

Quote:Re: Preston license renewal DENIED by Alabama
by Sean on Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:20 am

I'm still new to this and only interested in finding a good DL program for myself.

And, after reading many of your posts here, I certainly respect you and am a fan.

But:

Don't you think that by this day and age most of these unaccredited mills you are chasing are weak and already on the run?

The "clever" mill operators smelled the dogs and heard the goose-steps years and years ago (late 90's at least) and have transformed into something else.

Shouldn't you be looking at what that "something else" might be? Isn't that where the real investigation is?

I know you get lots of newspaper and other media praise for what you do, and it's always nice to be viewed as the new "sheriff" and get the praise. But isn't it outdated and behind the times and actually helping those who adapted?

Think about Darwin...things adapt to survive.

So while you (and others) hunt the leftovers and get glory for it, you are actually benefiting those who adapted enough to escape your, and others, vision.

Just my opinion! I'm a scientist from Florida, not an expert.

Quote:No, I don't.
by g-gollin on Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:57 am

Sean wrote:
Don't you think that by this day and age most of these unaccredited mills you are chasing are weak and already on the run?

No. I expect that the number of illegitimate diplomas sold per year by businesses like Belford and Rochville is increasing.


Sean wrote:
The "clever" mill operators smelled the dogs and heard the goose-steps years and years ago (late 90's at least) and have transformed into something else.

I would not characterize the small number of enforcement actions for mail and wire fraud as carried out by those who "goose step." Look over the material describing St. Regis.


Sean wrote:
Shouldn't you be looking at what that "something else" might be?

You appear to be suggesting that legitimate postsecondary institutions (many of which hold recognized accreditation), and which are staffed by expert faculty with advanced degrees, are the "something else." That is just silly.


Sean wrote:
...you are actually benefiting those who adapted enough to escape...

No, we are trying to keep businesses that sell MD degrees (and other unearned credentials) to untrained paying customers from growing in number.


Sean wrote:
I'm a scientist from Florida...

What is it that you do, or have done, to make your self-identification as "a scientist" an accurate characterization? Would you be willing to describe this?

A degreeinfo thread:

http://www.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?t=24650

Note that Athabasca preferred distance degrees because they are a distance only school. The may very well have considered a Columbia Pacific degree superior to many accredited degrees. At the time Harvard indicated a willingness to accept a CPU degree for admissions. How disgraceful is that.

I'm sure there are a whole raft of pre-accreditation Union Institute degrees there. It took like 15 years to get accreditation. Are these ones okay?

I posted to this somewhat ridiculous article concerning ethics among anthropologists and their work for government or military.

I posted that I believed that anthropologists certainly should consider it unethical to work for a living. Note that normally anthropologists have no real world work so it would be not be unexpected that they would consider work unethical.

http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/02/19/anthro

My post was removed. It was not in any way vulgar or even critical. It was simply ironic. I guess they are looking for bobbleheads, not real discussion.

I move here the offtopic from other threads.

Quote:No real accounting has ever been done of all the deaths in WWII because the results could not be stomached politically.

Quote:The mountain of evidence has been building that Bacque's charge of the "missing million" supposedly perishing in the American (and French) POW camps in Germany and France is based on completely faulty interpretation of statistical data. There was never any serious disagreement that the German POWs were treated badly by the U.S. Army and suffered egregiously in these camps in the first weeks after the end of the war. That the chaos of the war's end would also produce potentially mismatches and errors in record keeping should surprise no one either.

Quote:But there was NO AMERICAN POLICY to starve them to death as Bacque asserts and NO COVER UP either after the war. No question about it, there were individual American camp guards who took revenge on German POWs based on their hatred of the Nazis.

Quote:The total death rate for POWs in World War II were as follows

Is this an example of the vaunted poetry penned by pervert Alan Contreras of the odious ODA?  Say it ain't so!  The politics seem about what you would expect from a socialist idiot, but even faggots get taught about predicate nominatives in school, don't they?

http://www.poetry.com/dotnet/P8751274/99...splay.aspx

Quote:

Why!
why are people in this country so e***
why do they want people to go to war to fight and kil
why dont they go fight and kill
why do they think they are morally superior
when its THEM that cheat on there wives,
when its THEM that lie to get rich
when its THEM that have no morals
why do men die when people lie
WHY!

Alan Contreras
Copyright ©2009  Alan Contreras

I would really prefer not discussing the legitimacy of WNU (or KWU as it was called). It seems that this is a lively topic of discussion all over the web. The other DL board so often quoted here seems to have a field day with this. There seem to be individuals there who built careers destroying WNU's reputation, as well as that of students and graduates.

Personally I could not give a dam about Paul Saltman or the administration of WNU. Maybe they are opportunistic individuals more concerned with making profits than with education. Maybe not.

What concerns me is that there are students and graduates who seem to be left in the lurch here. For instance, WNU says it will close its doors at the end of March and the current students need to finish by then.

Preston University, which is currently based in Alabama, has agreed to take in WNU's graduates and supply transcripts and provide other Alumni services. This leaves another question, what will happen with this school? Preston's website seems to be down for now. I spoke with some grads of WNU who had problems contacting them.

So whats the story here?

Now I am a KWU grad from a while back. I think it was not 100% bad but I really think that politics got mixed up and some individuals wanted to destroy WNU for their own profit. Thats why that who GAO "Investigation" took place and why Oregon made an attempt to force grads to not put their education on their resume.

Just saying hi.

Interesting stuff here.

http://www.oberlin.edu/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/o...ec=letters

Quote:The Oberlin Review
previous < Friday, December 12, 2008 > next  

SURF Thanks Campus for Wave of Support

To the Editors:

Oberlin Students for Reproductive Freedoms would like to thank everyone who attended our fundraiser, Work It For Women!, on Friday, Dec. 5 at the 'Sco. With your contributions, we raised over $2300, about a thousand dollars more than last year. This money will go to an abortion access fund at Preterm, an abortion clinic in Cleveland, to help women with the costs associated with abortion. Many women struggle to finance their abortions; anti-choice legislation often targets low-income women disproportionately. The Hyde Amendment prohibits the use of federal funds to finance abortion, and many health insurance policies do not cover the cost of an abortion. There are many expenses associated with abortion other than the cost of the medical procedure itself, including the cost of taking a day or two off work, childcare during the procedure, overnight stays and transportation. Transportation and overnight stays are major issues for Ohio women. In 2005, 90 percent of Ohio counties had no abortion provider, and 51 percent of Ohio women lived in these counties. Of U.S. women obtaining abortions in 2005, non-hospital providers estimate that 25 perccent traveled at least 50 miles, and 8 percent traveled more than 100 miles (guttmacher.org). Abortion-access funds help to facilitate affordable access to reproductive health services regardless of socioeconomic status.

We would like to thank our co-sponsors: the Oberlin ACLU, Affirming Choice Through Spirituality (ACTS), the Oberlin College Democrats and HIV Peer Testers. We'd also like to express our gratitude to the 'Sco staff, everyone who works in Wilder 111, Concert Sound, Like Bells, the Sauce, the David Bowie Cover Band and DJ Beat.

Finally, we were thrilled to see that there is such strong support among Oberlin students for a woman's right to choose. We urge everyone to stay informed and get active in choice issues. If you are interested in participating in Students United for Reproductive Freedoms, please send an email to oberlinsurf@gmail.com.


-Cordelia Loots-Gollin
-Corinne Streicher
Co-Chairs, Oberlin SURF  

The school that has the LEAST respected doctoral graduates decided they weren't the problem, DETC schools were.

Thread fron Gooseville:

http://www.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?t=30158

This is the same school that accepted unaccredited degrees from a school founded by the same owner, SCUPS.  SCUPS wasn't only unaccredited, it failed to get national accreditation.  This is the same school that is on a short accreditation renewal because the NCA thinks it sucks.

This is the same school that had people at degreeinfo quitting because they thought doctoral level courses should be difficult.  This is the same school with some students and graduates posting who seem challenged in the area of literacy.  This is a joke.

If they are trying to convince the NCA that this is tightening up and they should otherwise get a free ride on accreditation renewal - wrong.  The regional accreditors love national accreditors.  I think they would prefer the GRE or GMAT as a selection procedure.

One thing to keep in mind is that if Northcentral fails in its accreditation renewal many DETC schools will hold their nose and accept the credits.


Correction - it's on Tailpipeville. Since Janko died there are no posts at Gooseville.

George is busy creating threads and continuously replying to them. eg

http://www.degreediscussion.com/forums/v...f=5&t=6546

It must be terrible to be so passionate about a cause no-one else is interested in. Yes there are degreemills out there, always have been, always will be. Yaaaaawwn!!!!!

There will always be foot fungus and reading about it is about equally interesting. Perhaps George should revisit attacks on legitimate schools, then he might have debate, just not at DD.